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Mountain Heritage 11-05-2009 08:08 PM

Plow types...
 
Just wondering if anyone has ever seen a 2 or 3 furrow plow for a Cub? I so do you have any pictures of it?:BangPC:

ihnick 11-05-2009 08:19 PM

theres a video of a 100 i think on youtube pulling a 2 bottom plow

Merk 11-05-2009 08:20 PM

Here are 2 different types
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ures/N0831.jpg
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...ures/N0827.jpg
Only picture I have of this one:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...res/aw2207.jpg
I know someone who has a pull type 2 bottom plow.
There is a gent who has a JD 430 that pulls a three point hitch two bottom plow(10 inch bottoms). Both look like a factory set up.

I don't have a picture(s) of them.

jbollis 11-05-2009 10:48 PM

Not to sound negative. But I have a question on the 2 bottom plow. I have been wanting to get either a plow and disc's or a tiller so I can do my garden. Do or can our cubs pull a 2 bottom fast and deep enough to be effective?

joe

Mountain Heritage 11-06-2009 07:08 AM

:bigthink:

That is exactly what I am wondering - if they are (which the 782D in the picture shows), I think it would be cool to have one. I have never seen any on the web except for the pictures just posted - they have all been 1 furrow plows. I was really thinking if you could get the traction with duals on both sides, you could likely pull a 3 or 4 furrow "on land" plow. The articulating tractor that is on extreme motor works site, with the duals all the way around should be able to. Throw some ags on it instead of turfs, hook up a 4 furrow on land plow and you would be away to the races! Imagine showing up at a plow day with that unit, there would be a lot of heads turning and head scratching over it!

JayBrd 11-06-2009 10:17 AM

Keep in mind that the CCO is not stock, and has a Kabota diesel in it :biggrin2.gif:

Search cub cadet plowing on you tube and he has a few vids up..

Merk 11-06-2009 12:53 PM

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by JayBrd
Keep in mind that the CCO is not stock, and has a Kabota diesel in it
The Red cub has a 15 horsepower Kubota diesel in it.
The Orginal has a 20 horsepower Kohler gas motor in it.

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by jbollis
Not to sound negative. But I have a question on the 2 bottom plow. I have been wanting to get either a plow and disc's or a tiller so I can do my garden. Do or can our cubs pull a 2 bottom fast and deep enough to be effective?
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by Mountain Heritage
That is exactly what I am wondering - if they are (which the 782D in the picture shows), I think it would be cool to have one. I have never seen any on the web except for the pictures just posted - they have all been 1 furrow plows. I was really thinking if you could get the traction with duals on both sides, you could likely pull a 3 or 4 furrow "on land" plow. The articulating tractor that is on extreme motor works site, with the duals all the way around should be able to. Throw some ags on it instead of turfs, hook up a 4 furrow on land plow and you would be away to the races! Imagine showing up at a plow day with that unit, there would be a lot of heads turning and head scratching over it!
The Orginal was pulling the plow in 2nd gear most of the day.....until the trans locked up.

Both plows have 8 inch wide bottoms. Normal plow depth is half the plow width which means they are only plowing 4 to 5 inches deep. I will plow a 10 inch wide section 5 to 6 inches deep with my single bottom 10 inch plow. Most times I need to plow deeper than 4 inches. My tiller will go 4 inches deep when using it.

I have a friend that has a JD 430 that pulls two 10 inch plows. This tractor has around 35 horsepower in it and a 2 speed locking diff in the rear. This tractor weighs 1500 pounds. He has problems pulling that plow at a plow day in my area. The power is there...traction is not. The articulating tractor that is on extreme motor works site, with the duals all the way around will have traction problems with some ags on it. Weight seems to be the problem.

Mountain Heritage 11-08-2009 07:55 PM

What about a decent set of disc's? I know Cub61 has a nice set, but the only downfall his are manually lifted. Can you get a good set of disc's that run off the 3pth that will still cut up the soil good or do you need to go to a pull type with some weight on it?

Merk 11-08-2009 09:39 PM

I would use and electric actuator to raise and lower a disc like Cub61s.

dieselsnowmobile 11-09-2009 11:52 AM

Land plows work on tractors, but they are the first to have to leave the field when it gets muddy and have traction issues even with 8 big tires. The furrow provides the tractor excellent traction with a differential lock and left side duals. Personally, I do not think they are that great, especially on two wheel drive tractors like Cubs.

To provide some back ground on this, I was helping a farmer plow his field while the ground was frozen, there were three tractors:

4 wheel drive articulating Tractor with a land plow
Front wheel assist tractor with a furrow plow
2 wheel drive tractor with a furrow plow

When the ground started to thaw, the 4 wheel drive tractor was the first to go, there was little traction in the mud and no tires in the furrow. Then, the 2 wheel drive tractor could stay in the field due to traction in the furrow, but it also got too muddy. The Front wheel assist tractor lasted the longest.

Mountain Heritage 11-11-2009 05:57 AM

Okay then.....who is going to be the first to make a 4 wheel drive Cub??? They do look pretty spanky with ags on the front, why not put that tread to use!

Come on.......I know there are guys out there that have thought about it!

medic75 11-11-2009 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mountain Heritage (Post 14597)
Okay then.....who is going to be the first to make a 4 wheel drive Cub??? They do look pretty spanky with ags on the front, why not put that tread to use!

Come on.......I know there are guys out there that have thought about it!

I would imagine it would be more lucrative to buy a stock 4wd than attempt to fabricate a 4wd system on an existing cub cadet. Just my opinion. The only reason I could see to do it is just for kicks and bragging rights.

jbollis 11-11-2009 03:44 PM

4 Attachment(s)
Here are some pics I found on a differant site. the 2 bottom is nice looking ,the 2 articulators are cool ,but do you see somthing differant about the front axle on 100 :bigthink:

dieselsnowmobile 11-11-2009 04:45 PM

That 100 sure does look nice, and even looks like he has a scraper pan for it to move dirt. Would be cool to watch. I have operated CAT 627's and pull type pans, but nothing that small.

mtdcc 11-15-2009 10:10 PM

i think those lil 4x4 tractors are awesome. i bet they could do a ton of work in no time. i want 1! :bigthink:

eastonct124 11-15-2009 10:18 PM

That's cool, what kind of diff is on it? Any ideas?

Mountain Heritage 11-16-2009 08:59 PM

Sweeeeet!
 
I agree, what the heck kind of diff is that from ?

I would love to see those tractors work! I think it would be very interesting to see how that 4 wheel drive cub works, compare it to one of the articulate tractors, see which one could out pull the other. If anyone finds a video of either of these working let us know. Any other pictures of that 4 wheel drive cub? I really think the guy did a great job on that one, too bad he couldn't have a diff withouth the bolt on plate to the front....a solid casting would have looked really good...but I imagine finding this one was like searching out hen's teeth?:bigthink:

:beerchug::beer2:

Mike in NC 11-19-2009 10:53 AM

The one with the 4X4 100 also made a 100 crawler. It looks like it was factory made.

Mountain Heritage 12-03-2009 07:12 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKQFf...eature=related

found this....:bigthink:

Merk 12-03-2009 09:53 PM

That vido was made at Ohio Plow Days a few years ago.
Here is a picture of the tractor and plow:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...res/aw2207.jpg

thenrie 12-04-2009 11:07 PM

I read about that 4X4. Said he made the front axle from a golf cart rear axle. Can't recall what kind of golf cart, but it looks like a Dana axle.


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