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ihcc104 10-02-2012 10:26 PM

Good Deal?
 
I found this tractor on CL... its a Cub 123 Hydrostatic. It doesn't look like in that bad of shape. Just wondering if ya'll think it is worth the $250? Thanks. Im thinking about picking it up

http://nwct.craigslist.org/grd/3281695827.html

Cub Cadet 123 10-02-2012 11:01 PM

Looks good to me! Surprise him if you go to buy it and put just a little bit of HEET in that gas tank with some fresh gas to help clean the carb. Caution....just about an 1/8 of an ounce per half gallon of gas and it should fire up. See if you can pick up that 122 as a package deal with the 123!!

Cub Cadet 123

ihcc104 10-02-2012 11:13 PM

I may just have to do that. The 122 is for sale as well on C but he claims it has a blown head gasket and he personally has not had it running... asking 250 for each of them. Seem like 123 would be worth more. Ill be honest... I have not heard of a 123 before about a week ago.

cadzag72 10-02-2012 11:39 PM

looks pretty sweet! 123 was the first hydrostatic transmission. Almost got one this summer, but it disappeared before I could get to it. Sure seems like a great deal!

jdroison 10-02-2012 11:44 PM

it looks good, take 20 dollar bills and offer 200, the 20s makes it look like more.:biggrin2:
I would try 350 for the pair.:bigthink:

that 108/6 i was watching went for 285 plus 15% buyers fee and sales tax, i figured it out at about 350.:bigeyes:

i am going to look at another 147 tomorrow, if it comes home i will have 3 147's
and 5 cubs all together. think Im hooked yet?:beerchug:

ihcc104 10-02-2012 11:51 PM

I know how you feel.... I am hooked. The only problem is that I live at home (since I am still at school full time), So I have to keep it to a minimum as far as tractors go. Luckily my dad loves these old tractors too...

zippy1 10-03-2012 12:25 AM

He (the seller) said it "was running, but needs a carb cleaning" they all were running at one time. Start low and you can always come up, but don't go into it expecting to pay his asking price.
Is it worth it? Most likely. All depends. But if you can't try it out, how do you know the hydro is working properly? If there's anything grinding in the transaxle? You most likely will have to do a trunning repair, which isn't a big deal, but most need it at some point, unless it's been done already.
And it all boils down to how bad do you want a 123? I like mine, it was rough looking compaired to this one your looking at, but alot of work and some coin to get it there. Good luck with your adventure, keep us posted.

ihcc104 10-03-2012 12:38 AM

Thank you for your information and input! I really appreciate it. Thank you for raising some questions. I sometimes don't always think about certain things. And I will definitely keep you posted.

red56turbo 10-03-2012 10:04 AM

As others have said, go low and work up if needed. Alot of times when one flashes the green, the seller will move on price. If it's nonrunning while you look at it, that will lower the price. He says the tires are shot and that also hurts the price. No deck or attachments either. In my area, I'd shoot for $200. Take some extra cash and offer $350 for the pair. Good luck and keep us posted. :beer2:

ksanders 10-03-2012 10:40 AM

A little advice you can't go wrong with... if you can't fire the tractor up due to needing carb work, starter, battery, etc that you always see in ads just assume it needs rebuilt in your asking price. Some are honest but I bet over 50% of tractors I've bought that I couldn't hear run on the spot had undisclosed knocks, smoking, etc. Some are honest but when its your money on the line assume it needs work unless proven otherwise. A half-rebuild on a motor, some rear end work, or driveshaft parts alone can run up bills to fix beyond what the tractor would ever sell for fixed up. Depends on how bad you want one like others have said.

darkminion_17 10-03-2012 10:43 AM

The seller looks like he wants to clean up his yard. Is the sellers name Dave?
If so you should be able to get a good deal.Just my 2¢
And of course we need pics of your score...

IACubCadet 10-03-2012 10:50 AM

Here's my .02

First, its worth whatever you are willing to pay for it. If you want it bad, you'll pay the $200. There are tractors in the past that I have bought simply because they had good tires, or had a good engine and the rest of it was junk. So, I shot them an offer and we made a deal. But there has been a few tractors where I have paid full price for because I knew I really wanted them...

Second, a rule of thumb IMHO...if you can't hear it run, see it move under it's own power, or it dosent have any attachments...$200 is all you give. If it has a 3pt or weights or whatever, offer a little more. At 200 bucks, you know very well that your investment can be returned by parting it out or selling it. Thats just simple rules of business!:biggrin2:

Methos 10-03-2012 10:54 AM

Looks like a good deal to me. Good luck!:beerchug:

MikeC 10-03-2012 12:49 PM

I agree about how you should price a non runner. But, one of the things I always tell my kids is not to get caught up in what I call auction fever, when you get caught up in the chase. You need to have, what for you would be a fair, but maximum figure in mind and work your way up towards your final offer. When you get to that point, make sure you tell them it is your final offer. Don't be afraid to put the money back in your pocket, turn and walk away. Can't tell you how many times the seller has changed their mind as we were getting back into the truck.
Good luck.
MikeC

ihcc104 10-03-2012 12:58 PM

That was/is exactly my plan, I am only going to bring my max $ I am willing to pay when I go. If he says more, then I walk away. I have no emotional attachment to it, it is just another Cub tractor. :beerchug:

ACecil 10-03-2012 01:19 PM

Sounds like a good deal. Hope you get it. :beerchug:

ihcc104 10-03-2012 02:49 PM

Here is the CL link for 122... http://nwct.craigslist.org/grd/3281699062.html

jdroison 10-03-2012 05:00 PM

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cory, that one is a deal compared to the 123 I saw this morn. I was on way home from looking at another 147, (somebody slap me, i bought it,:bash2:) and saw this 123 sitting in a row of junk, I pulled in an looked at it. at min would need all tires, they were rotten. a seat, it was to. and had rusted holes in the deck. I talked to the guy and he wanted 300 firm:bigeyes:, i offered 100 and about got thrown off his place.:BB&YS: pic isn't very good.

on the up side the 147 i got is in fair shape, needs mule drive repair, muffler and steering has 1/2 turn of play but i can fix that.:beerchug: for this one I paid the asking price.

badboy1950 10-03-2012 05:47 PM

i am new here but not new to cub cadets.
jdroison offered the right starting price of $100 and for my money i would not go over $200.
my 2 cents
Dan

Sam Mac 10-03-2012 06:56 PM

OK time for me to go on a rant. The guy that owns it is asking $250.00 but you stars are saying offer him next to nothing. Get real it’s worth more than $250 if you parted it out. Some of you geniuses need a reality check. I got sucked into the “Super” crap last year and like a jerk went out and bought 3 of them, spent a ton of money on them and now I get clowns that think they should be able to buy them for ten cents on the dollar. The engine and hydro alone are worth more than what the guy is asking.

ihcc104 10-03-2012 07:10 PM

Sam Mac, I understand where you are coming from, but this is definitely a buying market. How can you blame people for wanting to get the best deal possible? I think any of us would... now does that mean gouge people and pay way too little... no, but a non-running tractor could be just a pile of metal if it is really messed up. The buyer takes all the risk not the seller. Just my $0.02

Well, It turns out the guy sold them... Oh well. On to the next ones... Lol.

I found another 123 that is running and has a mower deck for 250... HOWEVER, there is a hole cut in the tunnel and is quite large.
Take a look... http://hartford.craigslist.org/grd/3298236446.html

Repairable? Not worth it? Idk...

johncub7172 10-03-2012 08:11 PM

Just wondering guys. So we have here a non-running machine for 250. . I'am sorta leaning on, the lower offer of the asking price only because of the fact. Now if this machine were operable in which you could determine running conditoins, 250. is a very fair price. When we look at tractors of this age in the here and now, even a running tractor could expect to have major work completed in the future, like I have experienced. Nature of the beast, hands down.

Now, should you see the diamond in the ruff, like all of us do here at OCC, then spending the time and money clearly out weigh the price od a cheep crap lawn tractor of today. And to boot, these IHCC's out last'em all. Good for another 50, as they say! Oh, well. its been a long and awesome day. Good luck buddy!:beerchug:

Sam Mac 10-03-2012 08:46 PM

Let’s look at it from a different angle. How many times have you seen a Cub for sale in the for sale section of this web site in like condition for $600.00 plus and we don’t have an issue because it’s “One of us”? Yep it could be junk for $250.00 kind of like rolling the dice. Rant over.

zippy1 10-03-2012 08:50 PM

Now my 2 cents, again. You can't get near what you have into a tractor if your looking to sell it after going through it to make it looking and operating good, they are all worth more parted than they are whole.
Once and awhile I'll see someone with a completely restored, say 122, and he's asking $1000 this week, then two weeks later because he still has it the price comes down. I know there's more into it than the $1000, but he isn't going to get it out.
But you take that same tractor and part it, different story. You'll get that $ back, and then some. So I think the price is high for a non running tractor, not knowing if there's any major issues that lie deeper.
Don't get me wrong, if it's what you want, by all means buy it, it's your money. I've been there. Spent way more for something than it was worth. But I "had" to have it.
But non of this spitter I'm spitting really matters. It's sold anyway.

badboy1950 10-03-2012 08:55 PM

good luck on your 123 quest ihcc104, that running 123 looks like a better deal even with an extra hole in it. :beerchug:
Dan
by the way my first cc was a 123, like girlfriends you never forget your first.

IACubCadet 10-03-2012 09:27 PM

Don't let anyone try to fool you ihcc104, you were doing exactly what most of us would have done :beerchug:

Good luck on your search. If you lived closer, I'd have exactly what you were looking for!

darkminion_17 10-03-2012 10:50 PM

Sorry to hear you did not get the 123. At least the one you posted runs and has lights to boot....the hole can be fixed.

jmroy 10-04-2012 09:38 AM

I'd say get the one with the hole in the tunnel cover and then buy a new frame for it. And I just happen to have a 123 frame sitting here about 10 minutes from you. :ThumbsUp:

Cub Cadet 123 10-04-2012 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ihcc104 (Post 153094)
Sam Mac, I understand where you are coming from, but this is definitely a buying market. How can you blame people for wanting to get the best deal possible? I think any of us would... now does that mean gouge people and pay way too little... no, but a non-running tractor could be just a pile of metal if it is really messed up. The buyer takes all the risk not the seller. Just my $0.02

Well, It turns out the guy sold them... Oh well. On to the next ones... Lol.

I found another 123 that is running and has a mower deck for 250... HOWEVER, there is a hole cut in the tunnel and is quite large.
Take a look... http://hartford.craigslist.org/grd/3298236446.html

Repairable? Not worth it? Idk...

Always let your conscience be your guide! I have paid guys more than their asking price to something that I think is fair after I let them know what they have....like on my 73 with round fenders already on it. I have in it about what it is worth---but I feel good about the deal. I have also bought one off of a guy because he needed money to make rent, even though he told me he always wanted one and really didn't want to get rid of it after having it for only 1 week--I paid his asking price and gave him 6 months to call me and buy it back for exactly what I paid for it. Just my thoughts....

Whatever, you decide....an honest man's pillow is his peace of mind (as I've always heard).

Cub Cadet 123

Sam Mac 10-05-2012 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by IACubCadet (Post 153121)
Don't let anyone try to fool you ihcc104, you were doing exactly what most of us would have done :beerchug:

Good luck on your search. If you lived closer, I'd have exactly what you were looking for!

Here is a deal for you.
http://www.onlycubcadets.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=20159

ihcc104 10-05-2012 08:14 AM

Although it is a nice Cub, I am not interested in any Cub after 1969 (the 1x4/1x5 series). Thanks though

IACubCadet 10-05-2012 12:20 PM

I understand where you are coming from, people have their own taste in what they want to collect. Some people like one series, some people collect all of them. I too started with the 1x5 series, then got my first gear drive, then my first wideframe...Quietline...169...haha. It tends to blow up on a guy.

Sam Mac- I see you are eyeing that 169 as a deal! How come I haven't seen a PM in my inbox, or a truck and trailer ready to load it up? :beerchug:

Sam Mac 10-05-2012 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by IACubCadet (Post 153273)
I understand where you are coming from, people have their own taste in what they want to collect. Some people like one series, some people collect all of them. I too started with the 1x5 series, then got my first gear drive, then my first wideframe...Quietline...169...haha. It tends to blow up on a guy.

Sam Mac- I see you are eyeing that 169 as a deal! How come I haven't seen a PM in my inbox, or a truck and trailer ready to load it up? :beerchug:

IACubCadet

I am with Vince O on the QL series cut them up and sell the parts. Just Kidding. My 1210 had the QL type engine mounts and I hated it. Just to much extra stuff to go wrong for me. Last time I was in your area I came home with 2 Supers. I know most will think I nuts but I like the Cyclops series the best. :biggrin2:

By the way sorry if I pissed you off over the last post, didn't mean it the way you took it. Sent you a PM. :beerchug:


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