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fonty 06-18-2012 11:14 PM

AG or TURF tires on the 1450
 
Since I am new around here I need some help in deciding what type of tires to purchase for my 1450 (23x8.5x12). It has no back tires on it presently and I am torn between buying AG or Turf tires. ( I just bought ribbed ones for the front)
I mostly plan to use it for mold board plowing and tilling as I have another dedicated 25hp mower for the lawn but would want to run the 44A once in a awhile so the bearings don't set up.

Do the AG tires tear up the lawn much? Are they good for plowing snow in the winter or would I be better off with Turf and chains generally?

Lets hear your suggestions.

Thanks in advance for your considerations.

Fonty
:bigthink:

dieseldan123 06-18-2012 11:23 PM

Ive always had the best with ags. turfs have always torn up the lawn worse, especally when wet out, and dont offer anywhere close to the same amount of traction. Ags are generally a little more expensive but worth the cost as they will put the power where it belongs since you will mostly be using this tractor to pull a plow. Other than when the yard is soaked through with rain will my ags make any tracks and i have to try realy hard to do so, otherwise they float over the grass and leave less of an imprint than turfs. Since i live in an area where snow never happens i dont have first hand experience with snow traction but that ill leave to the experts. Hope this helps!

Cub Cadet 123 06-18-2012 11:28 PM

The ags would be my choice. Besides looking like a garden tractor, they will work great in the soil for tilling and plowing, as well as in the snow. Some people say that the turfs with chains work better in the snow and I have mixed views on that. I have never been stuck in the snow with my Tru Power ags, but I have with chains on my 149....well, actually it was mostly ice and not snow so it really isn't a fair comparison. I think ags for the most part will be best for what you want to do.

Cub Cadet 123

CADplans 06-18-2012 11:37 PM

The Greene tractor fans talk a lot about HDAP's. I would bet they are the best combination of traction and turf protection.

They may not be suitable for a Cub Cuadet that gauges the mower deck off the tires!!:bigthink:

The HDAP tires are a lower strength sidewall tire like an ATV tire.

BUT, they are the cat's meow to the Deere owners.

ole 147 06-18-2012 11:59 PM

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:bigthink:OK CC123, I'll show you what I have on my 1450.
they work better than turf savers in gardening and snow removal.
Normally the ag tires don't tear up the turf coarse it depends a lot on the opperator
My personal opinion is turf tires are junk. chains on turf tires, that's a joke, except on ice.
It's like winter tires vs all weather tires. You can figure that one out, it you have used both.:biggrin2:


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Originally Posted by Cub Cadet 123 (Post 139171)
The ags would be my choice. Besides looking like a garden tractor, they will work great in the soil for tilling and plowing, as well as in the snow. Some people say that the turfs with chains work better in the snow and I have mixed views on that. I have never been stuck in the snow with my Tru Power ags, but I have with chains on my 149....well, actually it was mostly ice and not snow so it really isn't a fair comparison. I think ags for the most part will be best for what you want to do.

Cub Cadet 123


dsmithjr 06-19-2012 02:31 AM

In my experience turfs will spin and tear the grass off. Ags will dig in and leave marks but the grass is still there. I think the key either way is adding weight either by filling the tires or wheel weights. As far as plowing my dad had turfs on his diesel and I have ags. He barely could plow at all and eventually gave up because the turfs became full of dirt. I finished plowing were he couldn't and I never had a tire spin. Needless to say everything we own now has ags

Matt G. 06-19-2012 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ole 147 (Post 139181)
chains on turf tires, that's a joke, except on ice.

Before I had ags on my plow tractors, I used turfs and chains at several plow days. I was doing better than quite a few tractors with ags. They are certainly not a joke...

PaulS 06-19-2012 07:50 AM

This discussion interests me. Most of my tractors have either a turf or auto style tread. I recently ordered ag tires for my super duper but did not want to pay the shipping cost so they will be delivered at an antique tractor show in early Sept. I do get pretty fair traction with the turf tire and in the winter with the addition of chains but am anxious to see how those Firestone ag tires will work. I'll let you all know when I get them mounted.

Methos 06-19-2012 10:50 AM

I prefer ags as with our soil turfs and chains don't work to well with our red clay.:bash2: Besides that I like the tractor look.:biggrin2:

cmatthew 06-19-2012 01:54 PM

i had turfs with chains for throwin snow and as long as you have weight in the back they work just fine. i agree...they arent a joke at all. they have there purpose and can be made to work in most situations. i did go with the ags cause of the looks and in the mud i do get better traction.

TheIHMan 06-19-2012 02:06 PM

I prefer age but I'll give my view in each situation
Tilling either
Mowing. Ags (better in wet ground and on hills)
Plowing Ags
Snow blading or blowing either (with fluid in the tires)

Cub Cadet 123 06-19-2012 10:52 PM

Why not run an ag on the RHS and a turf on the LHS that way you get the best of both worlds?:bash:......I'm just funnin', that would just be wrong in many ways.

Fonty, everyone has different opinions and different situations, so think about it for awhile. Life's not about making the right choice, because you won't always do that but it's more about making the choice right. Whatever you get will work--might take some adaptations (chains or weights), but it will still work out in the end (my vote is still for ags :biggrin2:). Keep us posted on your purchase!

Cub Cadet 123

CADplans 06-19-2012 11:23 PM

Then you can ask bias or radials!!?? :bigthink:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...016640x423.jpg

I like the one set of radials I have. :bigeyes:

Lots of footprint!!

Donovan M. 06-20-2012 03:54 PM

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ags.Plus they make the tractor look good.

ACecil 06-20-2012 04:29 PM

Definitely ag tires. My 100 has them and the 1872 will someday.

dieseldan123 06-20-2012 10:48 PM

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I like ags so much i had to add more!

Flatbedford 07-07-2012 10:02 PM

I bought a lightly used set of ags for my 149 this spring for plowing. I have been very happy with them. Awesome traction in the dirt. I can't believe the size of the rocks I was able to pull up in the garden I was working. They have also been great for mowing. They don't leave much of a mark in the grass and with the better traction, they actually dig up less grass than I did with the turfs. I can't comment on winter use yet though.
And yes, they do look much cooler too.
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n...9/DSCN2165.jpg

ACecil 07-07-2012 10:14 PM

Steve is right! Ags definitely make our cubs look cooler!

MrGitrdone41 07-07-2012 10:19 PM

I love ags i ran them all year round. I dislike Tru-power their go for mower but if u push dirt they lose if not weighted down a lot in the snow they are worthless. If u plow with a moldbroad they work good because of the deep sidewall. Their are nice sets of tires on ebay at are a real ag thread. Deerstone and Duro are on ebay but if u a good made tire tru-power is the way to go. If u are just mowing get tru-powers

Sam Mac 07-07-2012 10:43 PM

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Go for tracks :biggrin2:

johncub7172 07-08-2012 10:52 AM

Realy I have had tons of good traction power using 4 link tirechains with Goodyear 8.5 turf tires, as you can see here in the picture. Had got stuck in the ditch one winter, I had seriously thought I was going to have to piece the tractor out. But I did manage to make it up through the yard through 2.5' foot of snow.

Since you dont have any tires on the rear rims at this point, I would run a nice set of bar/ag tires. I cant wait to get the new Carlisle Tru Powers on the model 72, they are 6-12's and will provide more traction! I paid just under 80.$ each for the tru-powers.

Nothing with out tirechains will bite solid ice and let you push on through! But then again I have not yet tried out the ags on the 72 and proll'y wont. Happy trails, lets see what you come up with!

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