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jluster 04-17-2012 03:08 PM

Tiller my 129
 
I bought my first CC, a 129, less than a month ago and have acquired a 109 (blown engine, piston does not move), a 1650 (drive shaft was cut to get it in neutral) and a 1200 disassembled and missing the clutch/drive shaft.

I REALLY want a tiller and 4SPEED has a 2A he is willing to sell me. However, what do I need to get this on my 129? I can steal the hyrdo lift/pump of the 1650 (I assume). My mule drive runs a 44U deck on the 129. I have two other mule drives but I am not sure what deck went with them. I think one mule drive was with a 44A deck that went with the 1650 (took the 50" deck he had instead).

So I know I will need a long belt. What else anyone?

Methos 04-18-2012 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jluster (Post 127397)
I bought my first CC, a 129, less than a month ago and have acquired a 109 (blown engine, piston does not move), a 1650 (drive shaft was cut to get it in neutral) and a 1200 disassembled and missing the clutch/drive shaft.

I REALLY want a tiller and 4SPEED has a 2A he is willing to sell me. However, what do I need to get this on my 129? I can steal the hyrdo lift/pump of the 1650 (I assume). My mule drive runs a 44U deck on the 129. I have two other mule drives but I am not sure what deck went with them. I think one mule drive was with a 44A deck that went with the 1650 (took the 50" deck he had instead).

So I know I will need a long belt. What else anyone?

Depends if he has the 5/8 pulley on the gear box you'll have to change that out. You'll need a new long belt and everthing else will bolt right up. Does your 129 have spring assist or hydraulic lift? I perfer hydraulic lift myself.

jluster 04-18-2012 01:05 PM

I have a hydro lift on a 1650 I will move to the 129. Have to take the pump with it, I assume it bolts right up. Looking for a spring assist but they seem pricey compared to buying a 1650 for $300, that might run (haven't had time to work on it) and getting the hydro pump and lift and all the other parts with it! I will have to check my other cubs to see if they have spring assist!

Also, just got off the phone with 4SPEED and he says it is a model 2A that was purchased with his 682 toward the end of IH's production. It is just like his model 1 tiller that he recently restored and thinks they just changed the model numbers for marketing or branding purposes.

Well I am picking up Saturday and hopefully will be tilling by end of day Saturday or Sunday!

mmzullo 04-18-2012 03:45 PM

Hydro lines from the pump to lift valve are different. Also a couple pieces for the rockshaft are different.

jluster 04-18-2012 04:33 PM

Well then I better get that 1650 running! Thanks for the info!

Methos 04-18-2012 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jluster (Post 127585)
Well then I better get that 1650 running! Thanks for the info!

That sounds like a great idea!:beerchug:

_DX3_ 04-18-2012 07:11 PM

Those 1650's love tillers anyway.. :beerchug:

jluster 04-20-2012 11:20 AM

Well the 1650's engine seems locked up. The starter works when I took it off and tested it. The magnetic switch just clicked with the starter on. The drive shaft was removed and I cannot turn the engine by hand. My 1200's engine only rotates about 1/4 turn either way before I hear it hit something. Guess I need to try more before I buy.

So I committed to an 882 today! Nice diesel tractor for cheap and close by! It has hydro on the front and for the deck. I raised and lowered the deck nicely, but no lift on the rear! So knowing I have a 1650 with lift, I wonder if that will bolt on the 882. I can't see it working though because the gas tank appears to be in the way.

I am striking out on tilling this weekend! Need to sell off the 1200 and 1650 and get a lift or something for the 882. Yellow Fever has bitten me and I need to slow down.

Joe


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ACecil 04-20-2012 11:32 AM

Nice score on the 882!

Methos 04-20-2012 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jluster (Post 127854)
Well the 1650's engine seems locked up. The starter works when I took it off and tested it. The magnetic switch just clicked with the starter on. The drive shaft was removed and I cannot turn the engine by hand. My 1200's engine only rotates about 1/4 turn either way before I hear it hit something. Guess I need to try more before I buy.

So I committed to an 882 today! Nice diesel tractor for cheap and close by! It has hydro on the front and for the deck. I raised and lowered the deck nicely, but no lift on the rear! So knowing I have a 1650 with lift, I wonder if that will bolt on the 882. I can't see it working though because the gas tank appears to be in the way.

I am striking out on tilling this weekend! Need to sell off the 1200 and 1650 and get a lift or something for the 882. Yellow Fever has bitten me and I need to slow down.

Joe

Joe I wouldn't trust a tiller on that Alum. rear end. Isn't the gas tank over the rear end on the 882.:bigthink:

Good score just not sure if it will work or if you'll have to change things up and use a plow, disc set up like DWayne aka DX3 uses.:TwoCents:

jluster 04-20-2012 01:58 PM

Yeah I wondered about that rear end myself. I just pulled up the service manual for the 772 which I was told was very similar to my 882. The manual has installation instructions for a rear PTO and 3 point hitch! The hitch looks like it will hook up to the tiller. I doubt the PTO would drive the right angle box but the box could then sit on the rear end and the hitch could carry the tiller possibly. It looks rather interesting.

Methos 04-21-2012 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jluster (Post 127879)
Yeah I wondered about that rear end myself. I just pulled up the service manual for the 772 which I was told was very similar to my 882. The manual has installation instructions for a rear PTO and 3 point hitch! The hitch looks like it will hook up to the tiller. I doubt the PTO would drive the right angle box but the box could then sit on the rear end and the hitch could carry the tiller possibly. It looks rather interesting.

Joe where is the gas tank at? If it's on top of the rear end I don't think you'll have room to mount the top casting for the rear lift.

Matt G. 04-21-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Methos (Post 127872)
Joe I wouldn't trust a tiller on that Alum. rear end.

Why not? Works great on mine...

Attachment 23566

jluster-

You need a Cat-0 3-point hitch for the diesel. If you want to use one of the older belt-driven tillers, there is an adapter package to use it on a tractor with a Cat-0 hitch, but that adapter package is hard to find. I wound up making it. Details are on my website.

Methos 04-21-2012 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt G. (Post 128010)
Why not? Works great on mine...

Attachment 23566

jluster-

You need a Cat-0 3-point hitch for the diesel. If you want to use one of the older belt-driven tillers, there is an adapter package to use it on a tractor with a Cat-0 hitch, but that adapter package is hard to find. I wound up making it. Details are on my website.

Ahhh he's wanting to convert it to cat0.

ajgross 04-21-2012 07:11 PM

I just got the tiller running on my 682. I would be willing to trade the 682 with a tiller for a 882. :biggrin2:

AJ

mrcubcadet 04-21-2012 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ajgross (Post 128069)
I just got the tiller running on my 682. I would be willing to trade the 682 with a tiller for a 882. :biggrin2:

AJ


Sounds like a deal to me, Jluster! :ThumbsUp: :biggrin2:



I believe AJ is serious! :beerchug:

jluster 04-25-2012 10:45 AM

I know Doug (4SPEED) will trade a lot for that 882 as well! I am going to start looking for these attachments 3 point and tiller adapter. But I think I will keep the 882 for a while before I give up on it as my true garden tractor for tilling and plowing.

It does need some work. Can hardly steer it, tires leak, throttle needs to be held up with a wire, and needs new PTO switch. Basically I would rather mow with my 129 than the 882 at this point but the 882 will climb the hills (with chains and rear wheel weights) that the 129 will not.

I think I will try to get my 1200 running soon and see if I cannot get the tiller on it. Boy if the motor in my 1650 would turn over, I would have better hope for the tiller on it.

ajgross 04-26-2012 06:11 PM

I didn't figure you'd let it go, but I thought I would throw it out there.

AJ


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