Differents of Kohler KT 17???
 

Hi Guys,

now, i've a new Question.
Whats the Different between the Kohler KT17 Series 2, with Spec. Nr.: 24301, and the Nr.: 24302?
I saw Parts of it in some US Ebay Auctions.
Can i buy this Parts, and will this Parts fit to my Block, Nr.: 24302?

Look at the Pic of my Cylinder, can i own this with this crack, after rebuild, or need i an New one?

mfg Georg:Cub8:

Georg,
I'm no expert, but I wouldn't use that cylinder. There's too much of a chance that the skirt of the piston or rings will come down into that area and chew itself to pieces.

Find a new jug, they are cheap and you'll be much better off in the end.

-Ray

Georg:

Kohler Spec Numbers:

24301 = Was made for John Deere
24302 = Was made for IH Cub Cadet

I would venture to say, that these motors are identical EXCEPT for the Crankshaft. The diameter of the crankshaft on the PTO end will be different

I had a small chip out on the bottom of one of my cylinder jugs also. The small chips did NOT effect the piston travel. So, the jug was bored .010 over and I have had NO problems. You can measure to see if the piston travels or is exposed to the "chip out area".

The jugs from the above Kohler Spec numbers would be interchangeable.



:ThumbsUp:.

Georg

I have a spare Kt17 also with a broke rod, I will tear down in a couple of days and if the jug is good you can have it. Make it simple on me and I'll ship USPS Priority International, just pay the shipping.

Scott

Georg

I'm not sure if jugs are interchangable from side to side, I think they are but I'm not sure, which of yours is damaged?

Scott

Scott:

YUP...The jugs are the same.

:IH Trusted Hand:

Thank you for the answeres,

@Murphy: Do you want to repair, or to Part the Engine, can i get the good Rod, and the Piston too?

Tomorrow, i will go to a Engine rebuilder, and look, if we can grind the Crank free of the Aluminium Parts, to get back the standard size.

I will make a reply, if i know more,

mfg Georg

Yes let me tear it down and I'll see what's good.

Scott

Georg:

As a suggestion, I would HIGHLY RECOMMEND that you install two new connecting rods.

The connecting rods are made of aluminum. They have a tendency to become fatigued after years of operation. If you only install one (the broken one), the other may look good but CAN and often does let loose later. It is not worth tearing down the motor again, let alone any more damage.

:ThumbsUp:

Georg...Please pay attention to Rolands recommendation on the rods...be safe and not sorry...replace both rods!!

Myron B

Check the manual to be sure, but I think that they are NOT interchangeable starting with the series II. They are machined differently for the valve seats.

The only manual I have is for the 18M, if he needs the left I'll send him the left. My spare is a Kt17 not a seriesII.

Scott

The RH & LH jug have the same part number. See attached image....

:IH Trusted Hand:

That's probably because the service cylinder barrels are interchangeable and have valve seats that are pressed in, but according to my KT-17 manual, the intake and exhaust valve seats are cut directly into the casting (except in 'special applications'), making them not interchangeable. It looks like they went to hardened valve seats in all applications with the Magnum series, so those would be interchangeable, but you'd have to remove the old seats and have new ones pressed in if you were not installing used cylinders in the same configuration they were originally installed in.

Georg

I have one good jug with piston to send you if you want it. The other looks exactly like your damaged one. This is a KT17 Series II, I was wrong when I said it was not a Series II. I can give you the spec# tomorrow if you want it but this should work for ya. Let me know.
http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...lowday/jug.jpg


Scott

From, what I can remember, the KT17's from the factory had a left and right jug. The replacement ones were interchangeable. The nonreplacement ones actually have a "1" and a "2" stamped onto them somewhere to distinguish between the left and right one. I forget where it's stamped at or even which side is which, but if you look closely at one, you'll see the numbers stamped into them.


I just looked at the manual, and the numbers are stamped into the jug under or beside the valve cover.http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...e/kt17jugs.jpg

This is copied out of the manual
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...lindertext.jpg

It's the right Cylinder, who is damaged, the one, with the Pin for the Flywheel, and i can't get out the long Screw from the Output, it's rusty!

Today, i opened the Crankcase of the Engine, there are a many Parts in it,

mfg Georg

Ouch! What a mess! Looking at the pictures I don't see any visible case damage, nothing jumping out at me anyway. Hopefully you can salvage it with the rebuild Georg. More probably when you get it all cleaned up. Good Luck!

Scott, where are you?
I've sent you some Messages about the Payment of shipping cost for the Cylinder, but i have no replys from you, i need the Part.

mfg Georg