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Arrowhead 09-06-2011 09:12 AM

124 restoration project pictures
 
Last winter I rescued a 124 from a friend that was headed to the scrap yard. It was complete with a perfect 48" deck. He said it didn't have much power. I tore the engine down and found a very bad exhaust valve and rings with an end gap over 1/4".

I decided to do a restore. I'm blasting and painting every part of the engine and tractor. It's not completed yet, but I though I'd start posting pics of the progress.

Here's a couple of pics showing the original condition. I had already removed the engine and other parts before I decided to take pics of the tractor.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3941.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3942.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3943.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3944.jpg

Methos 09-06-2011 09:30 AM

Ed that's in very good shape! The original paint looks great! Maybe some wax and mothers cutter and make it look new again before repainting it? The fenders have some rust on them but the rest of the paint looks great! Maybe try a spot just to see?:bigthink:

Arrowhead 09-06-2011 09:33 AM

Got the frame about stripped down.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3948.jpg

Starting to re-assemble

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...IMG_3966-1.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...IMG_3968-1.jpg

I sprayed the battery box with a spray in bed liner.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...IMG_3967-1.jpg

Arrowhead 09-06-2011 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methos (Post 90133)
Ed that's in very good shape! The original paint looks great! Maybe some wax and mothers cutter and make it look new again before repainting it? The fenders have some rust on them but the rest of the paint looks great! Maybe try a spot just to see?:bigthink:

It's too late. :bouncy:

Arrowhead 09-06-2011 09:41 AM

I got the fenders on and new rubber.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3970.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3971.jpg

I used the spray in liner to do the foot rests also. Then I sprayed a semi-glosss black over them.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3972.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3973.jpg

Hubman 09-06-2011 09:48 AM

Nice work
 
Looks like it is coming along , I really like your idea about using bed liner in battery box area and foot rests.

Methos 09-06-2011 09:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrowhead (Post 90135)
It's too late. :bouncy:

I see!:bash2:

Looks great tho!

Arrowhead 09-06-2011 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubman (Post 90140)
Looks like it is coming along , I really like your idea about using bed liner in battery box area and foot rests.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Methos (Post 90141)
I see!:bash2:

Looks great tho!

Thank you Guys! :beerchug:

I should have more pics this afternoon.

ACecil 09-06-2011 10:39 AM

Great pics, you are doing a fantastic job! Love the V61's and the rear ags! :beerchug:

ihnick 09-06-2011 11:53 AM

Looking real nice. What brand are those ags? You must really like chainsaws haha

neo71665 09-06-2011 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hubman (Post 90140)
Looks like it is coming along , I really like your idea about using bed liner in battery box area and foot rests.


Works great I do it on everything. The only problem I see is the whole box needs to be covered or acid can still find its way to the paint and work its way under the liner. The texture won't be right but you can still paint over it so it will be yellow. Might take a few coats.


I have a truck that I coated the inner fenders and battery tray with the stuff. Even after a leaking battery sit in it till it drained dry all I had to do was pour some baking soda mixed in water over it (neuralize the acid) and hose it off. Everything still looks like the day I put it together and that was 3 years ago.

Matt G. 09-06-2011 05:52 PM

Looking good...

From a 'been there, done that' perspective, I would pull the steering column and leave it out until you get the dash on and assembled and the grommet in there. It will be next to impossible to install the grommet with the column already in place.

Arrowhead 09-06-2011 08:59 PM

Thanks for the comments and suggestions. :beerchug:
Yes, I like chainsaws a bunch. Building and porting them.
Here are a couple more pics of today's work.

Here is the seat bracket/tool box. I blasted it and coated it with the bed liner spray. Then I used semi gloss black paint over it to match the foot rests. I made a stainless seat hinge pin also. I used brass bolts to secure the bracket. All the rest of the bolts on the tractor that are not painted are stainless.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3975.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3976.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3977.jpg

Arrowhead 09-06-2011 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ihnick (Post 90161)
Looking real nice. What brand are those ags? You must really like chainsaws haha

Thanks, the ags are Duro's.

darkminion_17 09-06-2011 09:12 PM

Be sure you are using the proper grade bolts when you a reassembling your 124.Stainless is not as good where strength is needed in a fastener.
Nice job on the paint.

Arrowhead 09-06-2011 09:33 PM

Thanks, I'm using grade 8 where it needs strength and stainless for the light areas.

Matt G. 09-06-2011 09:45 PM

Grade 5 is what you need basically everywhere...engine head bolts are grade 8, and there are only a few non-structural or lightly-loaded things fastened with grade 2 bolts, like the voltage regulator.

william1041200 09-06-2011 09:55 PM

You do good work, and you do it hard and fast. Somehow, I never have seen this thread. I really like your applications of bedliner. Especially on the seat plates. Got a Question: Why did you use brass bolts there?

ACecil 09-06-2011 10:00 PM

Nice job! :beerchug:

william1041200 09-06-2011 10:04 PM

figured out why I never saw this thread before! You definitely got my attention, though.

Methos 09-06-2011 10:06 PM

Awesome work! Keep the pics coming!:beerchug:

william1041200 09-06-2011 10:14 PM

ED! hopefully, I can catch this one before it happens: DO NOT SANDBLAST THE ENGINE!! Tins, bolt on parts ok, but do not expose the internal casting to sand! Guess how I know... I heard the news after I did it, but the damage was done. There is no way to get the glass/ sand/ media out of the cast, and it finds its way around with oil flow.

Matt G. 09-06-2011 10:51 PM

Excellent point. On the same token, please tell us you didn't sandblast the rearend...same problems will occur...

Arrowhead 09-06-2011 11:47 PM

I cleaned the block in an ultra sonic cleaner. The tranny I used cup brushes on the grinder. I used brass bolts on the seat bracket because I had them laying around for years now and figured they would be sufficient for the seat.

Matt G. 09-07-2011 06:52 AM

Brass bolts are not very strong...I would replace those with grade 5 bolts, which is what was originally used on there. You certainly don't want those to break while you are on it and cause you to get hurt.

nikster 09-07-2011 06:58 AM

Looks GREAT, :beerchug:

Nik,

mrjeep81 09-07-2011 07:08 AM

me too!
 
I also am very motivated looking at your progress and quality of work. Looks very nice.:Salute:

Arrowhead 09-08-2011 09:34 AM

I haven't had much time to work on it lately. I did manage to get the hitch blasted and painted.

I made the lift rod out of stainless. I still need to drill the pin hole.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3982.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3983.jpg

The original front wheels had the valve stem on the outside. I welded that hole shut and installed them on the inside for a cleaner look.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3984.jpg

ACecil 09-08-2011 11:02 AM

Very nice! :beerchug:

ajcombs 09-08-2011 11:29 AM

Looks great keep those pics coming cant wait to see an entire tractor pic when finished!!

william1041200 09-08-2011 06:22 PM

Where was that valve stem hole?:biggrin2: Yeah you do great work!

cub1782 09-08-2011 06:53 PM

That thing looks great!!!!!!!! I love the Vredstrein v61 , I can wait to get some for my 1782 Diesel.:biggrin2:

Arrowhead 09-09-2011 10:08 AM

Thanks Guys! I won't have any time to work on it today. Hopefully this weekend though. :beerchug:

Arrowhead 09-13-2011 10:42 AM

I got it mostly back together. I'm having some starting issues. I did not run it much before I stripped it down, but I noticed the amp gauge would be way over on the + side, then the next minute on the - side.

Now when I turn the key on, the amp gauge does not move.

Once I start it, the amp gauge is showing -.

With a known good battery, it turns over very slow, once it hits the compression, it stops.

Even with a booster charge on a good battery, it struggles to turn over.

Once running, the engine sounds fantastic.

Any ideas what this could be? I believe all the wiring is correct. With everything painted seperately, could this be a bad ground situation? Or starter generator?

Methos 09-13-2011 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arrowhead (Post 91287)
I got it mostly back together. I'm having some starting issues. I did not run it much before I stripped it down, but I noticed the amp gauge would be way over on the + side, then the next minute on the - side.

Now when I turn the key on, the amp gauge does not move.

Once I start it, the amp gauge is showing -.

With a known good battery, it turns over very slow, once it hits the compression, it stops.

Even with a booster charge on a good battery, it struggles to turn over.

Once running, the engine sounds fantastic.

Any ideas what this could be? I believe all the wiring is correct. With everything painted seperately, could this be a bad ground situation? Or starter generator?

Ground wire.

westofb 09-13-2011 11:09 AM

Sounds like your points are in need of adjustment. My 149 recently rebuilt 14 hp is in the same boat. I set the points per the service manual, mine starts okay and sounds good, but when you go from idle to wot, she hesitates and bogs down. I am going to reset mine using MattG's method, I would post a link for you, but I am not smart enough to figure out how to out smart my smart phone....lol, I just need to pick up one of those cheap meters mentioned in his how to, find any post made by him, there is a link in his signature that will send you to his personal site.

Good luck, plus, your tractor is coming out real nice and have been enjoying your thread!

Arrowhead 09-13-2011 01:42 PM

I went through all the grounds, they checked out good.

I borrowed the starter/generator off my Dads 108. That fixed it! :beerchug:
I've never been inside one of these, anything I should know or look for? One of the posts seems loose.

I'll get some pics up this evening.

ACecil 09-13-2011 01:56 PM

Glad you got it figured out. Looking forward to your pics. :ThumbsUp:

Arrowhead 09-13-2011 07:32 PM

Here are a couple pics of the bad exhaust valve compared to a new one.

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3988.jpg

http://i959.photobucket.com/albums/a...r/IMG_3989.jpg

CC1650Dave 09-13-2011 07:37 PM

wow, that valve's seen better days...


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