Newbie hytran fluid question
 

Searched for an answer, but couldn't find what I was looking for. Doing a fluid change on the hydro of my 129.

Works fine, but from the looks of things it's been a long time since she's been serviced :bigeyes:

Got a cub filter, picking up a gasket tomorrow. Local farm supply (RuralKing) has a "IH/CASE HYTRAN B-6" equivalent for $14.99 2 gal, or the dealer has HyTran Ultra for $17.02 a gal.

Will the equivalent do me, or will I do more harm than good if I don't spend money on the real stuff?



Thanks for any advice!

Kevin

Kevin,

I'd stick with the Hy-Tran. You will be doing yourself a favor, in the long run. :beerchug:

X2 In a hydro stick with the true Hy-Trans...I would not trust anything the says equivalent these days anyway...

$2 more for the right stuff is cheaper than a complete rebuild..

It's actually about $20 more....... but so be it. I'd planned on changing the fluid in a short period of time twice since it's been so neglected, but once will have to do!

I may get chastised for saying this, however I don't think it would hurt to change the fluid to the equivalent for a "flush" not sure how long you would wnat to leave it in ? For a flush I think it would be good to (this is what I would do) cycle it for 2 weeks, then before you change it get your cub up to operating temp, ride it around for 30 minutes or more, and do not wait for the fluids to cool, as soon as you cut it off drain the hydro fluid, then fill with the called for spec fluid (Hy-tran)

Clint

IROCKWITHDIRT,

First you say Got a cub filter, picking up a gasket tomorrow. Local farm supply (RuralKing) has a "IH/CASE HYTRAN B-6" equivalent for $14.99 2 gal, or the dealer has HyTran Ultra for $17.02 a gal.

Then you say It's actually about $20 more....... but so be it. I'd planned on changing the fluid in a short period of time twice since it's been so neglected, but once will have to do!
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Are you planning on buying 10 gallons? My Hytran is under 18 bucks a gallon.

If my math isn't off, the generic stuff is $14.99 for a 2 gallon jug. 4 quarts in a gallon and they hydro takes 7

The hytran ultra is $17.02 for 1 gallon or $6.15 a quart. Most cost effective to buy 2 gal at $34.04.......about $20 more (shy some change).

what is so special about hytran?does it have some secret additive that no other hydrolic fluid has in it?is automatic trans fluid just basicly hydro fluid?i just dont see that a cubs hydro system is any different than any other hydro system thats out there,i cant see any good quality hydro fliud doing any harm to the system,just my opinion ?

IROCKWITHDIRT,

I missed the 2 gallon part in your price. Hytran is the only thing you want to use. The Gods have spoken. I would say don't be cheep. But if you use anything other than Hytran you'll either spend big bucks on replacement parts or junk a tractor that has been around for the last 40 years. And that ain't cheep.

Hytran absorbs water into gooey blobs and keeps it from damaging things. It also is an excellent rust preventer...the rearend on my 100 project had a quart of water and no hytran in it...but because it HAD hytran in it, there was no rust anywhere inside.

BTW, ATF is NOT the same...don't ever use that in a CC rearend...it'll wreck all the seals and cause other issues. Somebody put that in an 1810 I had, and I had some odd problems for awhile. I clogged a filter or two for no apparent reason. It was also puking oil out of the dipstick tube. I think it was foaming up under heavy load.

i just think that any good quality hydrolic oil should be good,it works in all other types of hydrolic machinerey,i cant see that a cub cadet is any different,im sure all of the mfgrs. of hydro oil know what water will do to the system,as do the makers of the system,this is not just a cub problem,just use a good quality hydro oil,just my opinion???

fleopis67:

You can use what ever fluid you want. We can only pass along Cub Cadet's recommendations. If you choose not to or ignore Cub's recommendations, then that's your choice. After all, it's your Cub(s).

http://i176.photobucket.com/albums/w...ydroFluids.jpg

I hope it is OK to post this. I mean no harm. Just trying to help keep these great little tractors a running for another lifetime.

Although I've used the off-brand many times, there must be some sort of difference in the "meets hytran specs" fluid and genuine hytran. The off-brands i've tried don't have near as red of tint to it as hytran. I wonder why that is?

HyTran is a Patented Formula. It is made exclusively by the Viscosity Oil Company for Case/IH & MTD. NOBODY else makes the same exact formula.

One can choose to use what is recommended, or one can choose to use an "equivalent".

I have not seen any other brand of hydraulic fluid that absorbs water like Hytran does. I can almost guarantee that the generic substitutions that supposedly meet the IH specs won't be as good.

Like everyone is saying, it's your tractor to do as you please with, but this is what is recommended, and for good reason.

My personal experience between Hytran and alternate fluids:

This spring I had 2 gal Super UDT left over (Kubota's high end fluid @ $28 gal) after I serviced my B21 TLB so decided to do my 1811 with the SUDT. Thinking if its good enough for the Kubota the Cub would be happy too.

The SUDT has very good specs but after the change out the first 20 minutes of operation were fine but once warm the hydro noise increased and bypass squeel due I presume to the thinner fluid concerned me, and the transmission response wasnt as sharp.

So back to the dealer a few weeks ago got 2 gal of Hytran and changed it out again. Now, very little hydro noise, no slipping, no bypass squeel - runs great.

Lesson learned - Hytran..

Carl

Here is a good example of Hytran at work.
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...0Dick/UD51.jpg

Hytran Ultra can be purchase at any Case-IH dealer.

Looks like what I drained outa the 9N when I got it........but there were 5gal. of it :bigeyes:

So I bought the ultra.... if it's real nasty, is it ok to flush with a little diesel?

Thanks!

Kevin

Diesel will work.
I used paper towels to get most of the stuff out. Them I sprayed brake clean in the rear end.

Today sucked! While changing the hydro fluid in the cub, dog was going crazy (as normal). Let her loose to run, she had a heart attach and died (she was a hyper 15yo.). I'm in a strange place right now...............gonna drink some beer. Tomorrow is another day.

Sorry, to read about your dog IROCKWITHDIRT. It's hard losing a friend.

Thanks......... she could be such a pain in the arse. Now all I can think about is how much I miss that pain.

sorry to hear about your loss IROCKWITHDIRT, BEER is a good THING. :beerchug:

One thing about using the Hytran vs. equivelant... you can run the Hytran longer between changes. That makes it cheaper in my opinion.

I agree
 

tractors,dogs,and BEER,are good things!:beerchug: