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CubbyRI 11-22-2020 07:13 PM

Is this a ported pump?
 
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I was thinking about making a hydro build for a few things. Would be nice to use a ported pump although I dont know how much accessories that can run. (Bucket loader?)

Anyway, is this rear a ported pump?

Thanks!

ol'George 11-22-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CubbyRI (Post 502616)
I was thinking about making a hydro build for a few things. Would be nice to use a ported pump although I dont know how much accessories that can run. (Bucket loader?)

Anyway, is this rear a ported pump?

Thanks!

I'd say no, but the ports would be hidden by the curved suction line in the photo.
It also appears to be the factory oil filter, as all the new replacements do not have a canister filter, they are throwaway spin on like we are used to seeing the last 50 years.
You are not going to operate much hyd equipment with about 4 GPM's full throttle.
Admittedly, you can operate a front loader, but it will be painfully slow
in my opinion.:bigthink:

R Bedell 11-22-2020 07:51 PM

The "return loop" of the Hydro pictured, hides the areas of where the "ports" would be.

CubbyRI 11-22-2020 07:56 PM

Thanks guys. Yeah I figured I'd need a separate bigger pump for a loader. I was thinking about an old car power steering pump actually. Got to check the psi and gpm. What are good numbers for those to run a loader with also a bucket tilt cylinder?

Gonna fab the loader myself

Oak 11-23-2020 06:38 AM

Here is what I used on my Kwik Way FEL on the 1772 and it works well.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/to...9706_200329706

sawdustdad 11-23-2020 11:31 PM

You will want a pump with about 6 gpm at 3000 psi for a satisfyingly snappy loader. You may want a 1500 to 2000 relief valve in the system, but the 6 gpm is a good rule of thumb.

CubbyRI 11-23-2020 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by sawdustdad (Post 502688)
You will want a pump with about 6 gpm at 3000 psi for a satisfyingly snappy loader. You may want a 1500 to 2000 relief valve in the system, but the 6 gpm is a good rule of thumb.

Cool thanks. What does the relief valve do?

also, Im liking this design, only 2 cylinders needed, and can buy plans too

https://www.loaderplans.com/order-ca...nd-loader#mini

ol'George 11-24-2020 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by CubbyRI (Post 502690)
Cool thanks. What does the relief valve do?

also, Im liking this design, only 2 cylinders needed, and can buy plans too

https://www.loaderplans.com/order-ca...nd-loader#mini

A pressure relief valve keeps the desired pressure in the system.
Without one, there is nothing to control the pressure causing things to break,
like hoses, lines, pumps, etc.
Much like the pressure regulator on a propane grill, or an air compressor.:BlahBlah:

Ambush 11-24-2020 10:15 AM

A relief valve is the one component in a hydraulic system that everybody can find to "turn up" the pressure limit. Usually believing it will compensate for a weak pump or motor. It's also the component that they fail to reset after finally installing a new pump or motor and subsequently destroy the new unit or blow all the old weak hoses. :bigeyes: The latter being preferable.

Tales From the Shop.

CubbyRI 11-24-2020 12:15 PM

Cool

so how does one "reset" a pressure relief valve?

and, would this control work? says it has a pressure relief in it... and if I have a 3500lb pump, does this 2000 press relief mean I am actually limited to 2000psi at the hydraulic cylinders?

https://northernhydraulics.net/catal...g3000-668.html


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