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Dirty Steve 12-26-2017 06:24 AM

Doc has a great idea on the fenders. My Dad has a 4x2 Cub Cadet Big Country. They made 6x4 versions. Here is a google search for the 6x4.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cub+...iw=640&bih=232

I think this is an awesome build and you are.doing a awesome job from where I am sitting. :beerchug:

john hall 12-26-2017 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselDoctor (Post 442134)
Lookin' good Frank. Nice to see it under it's own power, even if only a foot or two. What if you were to mount the future dump box on the frame as discussed above and then using the fenders cut off of the seat pan, mount them to the underside of the dump box. This way the dump box sits on the frame, the fenders go up with the dump box, and at a side view you retain the same look you had. Just a thought. You're doing good so far!

Fenders/mud flaps are mounted to the bed on my Kawasaki Mule, works fine. Regarding weight limit, its easy to overload something like this if you start hauling dirt, rocks, sand and gravel--same as applies to using a dump truck. Hauling hay bales, mulch, shrubbery clippings, tools--never a problem. I always know I'm pushing my luck when I have to get a second person to help dump the bed on the mule.
One consideration is a stop for the bed if you do manual lift. Kawasaki used the muffler.:bigeyes: I broke 2 of them before I redesigned the mounts to serve as adequate stops.

sawdustdad 12-26-2017 03:52 PM

Jon, you are probably right about the load capacity. Will scale back my thinking as a result. As always, appreciate your input as you have more experience with these things than I have.

The entire tractor itself will work out to be probably only about 1200 lbs. So 1000 lbs would be way too much. And looking at it again, the bed won't be very big anyway. Maybe 3'x4'. Not sure, need to put a tape measure on it.

I think the fenders attached to the bottom of the dump bed is a neat idea and would work well. Would allow moving the pivot point forward quite a bit.

OK, update. It's alive! Video of first test drive. Throttle needs some more friction to stay open. Otherwise, seems to work OK. I drove it around more than in this video, of course. But here's a brief segment on the driveway.

Oh, and there is no muffler on the engine at this point.

https://youtu.be/rsRmbM-YnTc

darkminion_17 12-26-2017 05:47 PM

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Looks cool Frank!!!
1000 lbs is heavy, my f150 can carry it though.
Maybe consider a plastic dump bed as an alternative to the steel one.
I am sure you thought out accessing the battery with the dump box on it.

DieselDoctor 12-26-2017 05:49 PM

Congratulations Frank! It looks great and it seems to turn well. :beerchug::beerchug:

sawdustdad 12-26-2017 07:34 PM

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Looks cool Frank!!!
1000 lbs is heavy, my f150 can carry it though.
Maybe consider a plastic dump bed as an alternative to the steel one.
I am sure you thought out accessing the battery with the dump box on it.

That's another good idea. A pre-fab bed might make sense. Though I'd like one with a flat bottom. As for battery access, I figured it would be accessible with the dump bed up. So I will need to make sure I can raise it if the battery is dead. Either by pulling a pin to release the cylinder (if I go hydraulic) or by providing a way to jump the battery via external connectors.

It would be much easier to put in a worm drive linear actuator, so that may be my solution. A hydraulic lift would require I swap out one of the hydros for a ported one or rig up a hydraulic pump.

I will probably start out with a 12v linear actuator then decide if In need or want to go hydraulic.

I do have a couple other alternatives for moving stuff around...the 128 with a rear PTO and a hydraulic dump trailer, the 72 and #1 cart and the orange thing..

darkminion_17 12-26-2017 07:39 PM

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Frank,
I have seen those containers that they put bulk liquids in for 75.00 cut it down and use that as a dump bed also.
You have some nice toys.

sawdustdad 12-26-2017 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DieselDoctor (Post 442190)
Congratulations Frank! It looks great and it seems to turn well. :beerchug::beerchug:

Hey, Doc,

No problem turning outside that I could tell, except inside the shop when I was pushing it around, I could hear the tires squeaking on the epoxy shop floor as the forward axle's tires slid sideways a bit in a hard turn.

After the test drive, I dropped the air pressure in the tires from 12 psi to about 8 psi. I could probably go to 5 or 6 psi. That will help keep more of the tires on the ground in uneven terrain.

I will need to do some more driving with it on hills and see what it's limitations are.

Terry C 12-26-2017 08:12 PM

Looks great in the vid!! Turns way better than I thought it would. I’m glad it
works for you. I was worried.
Keep up the good work!:beerchug:

olds45512 12-27-2017 07:34 AM

That turned out really nice and I like how you setup the fenders! :beerchug:


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