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Well I haven't had a chance to play around for over a week. My wife had our 2nd son last Wednesday :) I got a chance to ride around a little last night and I have some grinding back, not as bad as at first, but still some... What do I need to look at now? I have the clutch rod turned in as much as possible, one more revolution it won't go into the hole.

The bearing collar lock. Which one exactly is that? I'm trying to read through earlier posts and go back and check everything. In 1st and Rev if I push the pedal all the way in, or far enough for the brake latch to catch there is no grinding, but less pressure than that there is some slight. All of the grinding in every gear is only momentary, nothing lasting longer than I'd say 1/2 of a second. But like I said at first, before I've let it set for a week there wasn't any. If you want another video or more pics let me know :)

Hey gcbailey!!!! How's it going good buddy!!!!

First of all, Congratulations on your second son!!!! VERY COOL!!!!!

As for the gear grinding that you still have, I would suggest looking into your Clutch Pulley first. Make sure it's not wobbling around the drive shaft and touching the Pressure Plates, due to a worn out Bronze Bushing that is placed within the center hole of the Clutch Pulley. An easy way to check if the bronze bushing is worn out on the Clutch Pulley, is to simply turn on the tractor with the parking brake on and in Neutral Gear. After that you can either listen for a "rattling sound" coming from the bottom or just simply look under the tractor and watch the Clutch Pulley to see if it's wobbling around the drive shaft. If it's wobbling as it rotates around the drive shaft, that means you have a worn out Bronze Bushing. Which by the way are pretty easy to replace and you can also find the replacement bushings with anyone of our sponsors or you can also go to our Parts Resources section here on the forum.

As for how far you're having to press the Brake/Clutch Pedal in order to switch gears. I always press the Brake/Clutch Pedal all the way down on my 61 Cub before I even switch gears just to make sure everything has stopped turning down there. But let's go ahead and check the Clutch Pulley and see what's going there first, then we'll move on from there. Chances are you might not be pressing the Brake/Clutch Pedal far enough down to switch gears properly.

By the way gcbailey, you asked about the Bearing Lock Collar. The Bearing Lock Collar is located right at the very front of the drive shaft. And should be placed up against the High Speed Bearing that's being held between the two bearing retainers. The Bearing Lock Collar should have a small Allen Wrench screw flushed inside of it. I've added a break down of the whole Clutch Assembly as a visual. Hope this helps??? If you have anymore questions don't hesitate to ask. Take care good buddy!!!!:ThumbsUp:

MATT

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Thanks Matt!!!! I'll get this checked out today, probably post a video. BTW any luck in getting a new camera/camcorder?

By the amount of movement of the collar it looks you may be missing the teaser spring. That being gone would also contribute to the jerking at take off.

OK... made another video.

This is with the parking brake on, in neutral... I didn't feel like getting my head ran over this rainy morning. Now I have noticed it's squealing some with the brake on, never noticed that before, let the brake off, no squeal...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baQpt1KAzM0

gcbailey,

For me it's really hard to tell, but it looks like your teaser spring is broken and the possable cause of that squeeking. BTW I enjoy your videos.

Hey gcbailey!!!! How's it going good buddy!!!

I've been watching your vid over and over. And the first thing that caught my eye is that your Drive Shaft never stops turning when the Clutch/Brake Pedal is applied. The Drive Shaft always stops turning when the Clutch/Brake is applied. Obviously, there's something wrong within the Clutch Assembly that is not allowing the Drive Shaft to come to a complete stop when the Clutch/Brake Pedal is applied. I've also noticed that the Clutch Pulley is only moving away from the Front Pressure Plate and still making contact with the Back Pressure Plate. Both Pressure Plates should have no contact what so ever to the Clutch Pulley when the Clutch/Brake Pedal is applied. In result allowing the Drive Shaft to come to a complete stop so you can change gears properly without any gear grinding.

As for the "Squealing" noise. What I'm hearing is metal rubbing against metal and possibly doing some serious damage some where within the Clutch Assembly. My only recommendation is to do a complete tear down of the Clutch Assembly and see exactly where the problems are. Trust me, by doing this you'll save yourself a whole lot of time and money by replacing the parts that need to be replaced. Don't worry good buddy, we'll help you get that OL' Girl running again. Just keep the vids and the questions coming, and we'll give you the answers. Keep us posted good buddy!!!!

By the way, I'm still working on the digital camera thing.lol

MATT

Thanks guys... so let me start, how do I go about tearing it down? That spring is under a lot of pressure I assume. How can I safely, or at least think it's safe, tear it down? I don't have a press or anything. I do have a bench vise, but I don't know how that will work...

The sqealing to me sounds like the thrust brearing inside the collar needs some grease. Teaser spring looks broke so that would explain the jerky take off.

I think Matt is onto something with the pressure plate not being released completely too.

Keep us posted.

I played around some more last night. with the tractor off and brake engaged I can grab hold of the drive shaft and it spins seperate of the clutch pulley. BUT I did have to wiggle the pressure plates apart a little more. Is there a spring or what seperates the plates from the pulley? I could also turn the pulley and the drive shaft would not spin ( I had the plug out too btw) Do I need to WD-40 in between the plates and the pulley? But again, how much of this can I do without having a press to take the clutch apart?