4SPEEDs #1 Tiller Project

[fleetlines]

Doug,
It looks like you'll have your work cut out for you with the shafts. I believe you said you have torches. That should help a lot.

I wish you the best with the project. It's a challenge but it looks like you're up to the task.

What's the difference between the 1 and 1A?

Curtis

[4SPEED]

well I cant get the tines off the shaft. and the big pulley cracked trying to pull it off. need a new one anyway. but it wont move. Im going to take it to NAPA so they can see what pulley I need , then I'll cut it off.

Im going to get some new pipe , cut the brackets off that the tines bolt to. and make 2 new 3 tine sections. do away with the bolt on extensions. whats on it now is bent a little. if you spin it by hand , it doesnt spin true. it must of hit a stump or rock at some point.

[Sugarmaker]

Doug,
These tiller parts really get rusted up and locked tohether.
I was fortunate that I found good used main shaft and bearings. I did not ever get the inner races off the original shaft I just set it aside when I got the replacement parts.
Good luck with the rebuild. Have to remember on this kind of stuff its only steel it will come apart if you have to grind the parts in two!
Too bad about the pulley. I broke one on the snow thrower.
Regards,
Chris

[fleetlines]

Originally Posted by 4SPEED

well I cant get the tines off the shaft. and the big pully cracked trying to pull it off. need a new one anyway. but it wont move. Im going to take it to NAPA so they can see what pully I need , then I'll cut it off.

Im going to get some new pipe , cut the brackets off that the tines bolt to. and make 2 new 3 tine sections. do away with the bolt on extensions. whats on it now is bent a little. if you spin it by hand , it doesnt spin true. it must of hit a stump or rock at some point.

Doug,
No need in asking you if you ever had one on those days...

It sounds like you have a solid plan for your situation.

Not spinning true, shaft or tines? I noticed on my extension that the shaft in the plate is not centered. When I saw that it seemed intentional and may make it work better in the dirt. Just a thought. I glanced at the others (still on) and they looked centered. If this is the case you may want to keep them in order.

I am still wondering if I can put 4 sets of tines on each side. Since you'll be making them, perhaps that's an option for you as well now. It don't look that hard but I can see where it might need a bearing on the end fashioned to a support. I haven't had a comment back on that and since I've not even seen one run, it could be a "pipe dream" - no pun intended.

Looking forward to your updates.

Curtis

[Sugarmaker]

Curtis,
The distance to the tine mounting holes may be close and thats what matters most. Maybe only off by 1/16?? Can't see too well.
Regards,
Chris

[Methos]

Originally Posted by fleetlines

I am still wondering if I can put 4 sets of tines on each side. Since you'll be making them, perhaps that's an option for you as well now. It don't look that hard but I can see where it might need a bearing on the end fashioned to a support. I haven't had a comment back on that and since I've not even seen one run, it could be a "pipe dream" - no pun intended.

Looking forward to your updates.

Curtis

Curtis, I think it would be too hard on it. No good way to support the outer tines and you'd need lots of HP's to power it.

[4SPEED]

I got the new pipe. its the same ID with a bigger OD . the pipe is thicker.
also got a drop of 1/4" plate to make the tine mounts.
and got some 2"x3/8" bar to make 2 new hitch lift bars for the plow.



Im going to add another hole in the drive bar. the one hole gets egg shaped.





I would not recommend taking the drive part of the tiller apart. unless a chain is broken. the bearings are very hard to get off. Ive been fighting with the bearings on the tine drive end all day. NO GO

all I would do is drill and tap it in a few spots for grease zerk fittings.
Id put one by the drive pully and one down at the tines , and put a half a tube in both then forget about it. it lasted 35 years with this much in it.

use a heavy industrial grease



Im going to clean it up the best I can and weld the piece I cut off back on add some zerks , fill it with grease and call it Good.....

another pic of all the little parts you can not lose...

[ajgross]

Did you find that the boss inside the case was loose?

AJ

[4SPEED]

Originally Posted by ajgross

Did you find that the boss inside the case was loose?

AJ

boss? I dont know what you mean

[4SPEED]

I found the big 10" pulley. it'll be here Wen.