CC106 PTO issues?

[rangrayy]

I recently purchased a Cub Cadet 106 and when I brought it home everything was in working order but the next day I ran into clutch problems. Did some research and after talking with a guy, concluded there was a protective cup spacer installed when one shouldn't have been.

So I spent this last week a few minutes a night after work every night pulling the front clip, undoing the PTO lever and pulling the engine to access the clutch assembly to remove the cup.

I reinstalled everything exactly as I pulled it off and it fired right up and no more clutch problems.

Well I am not new to working on cars, engines or anything that moves and is mechanical, but this CC is giving me fits. I grew up riding them and playing around on them I just never took them apart and reassembled them. I put the PTO adjustment lever back exactly as it was and I do not believe it is right or I messed something up. The original 10HP Kohler is no longer in this 106 but was replaced with a reman Kohler 12HP.

I fought reattaching the mower deck then finally got it back in. I got the belt rerouted and went to fire it up and noticed, with the lever in the "OFF" position(pulled back) that the mower deck was spinning and the blades were going....shut off the mower and looked up front puzzled.

That's not right? I thought I knew how the PTO was supposed to work but maybe I am wrong. Can someone explain how it is supposed to be?

While in the off position and running I climbed over the hood and watched the PTO and noticed some sparks and the center of the PTO starting to turn red.... shut it off and figured the sparks were from the adjustment arm was hitting on the three triangles/fins on the PTO.

I figured I wont be able to mow so I took the deck back off and pulled the belt out and readjusted the lever so the pressure button wouldn't rub and allow the PTO spin freely..

I AM LOST... I suspect that the PTO is probably shot.

[bfowler88]

Sounds like the pto lever fiber button is missing to me or slap worn out. Do a search on cub cadet fiber button.

[rangrayy]

Originally Posted by bfowler88

Sounds like the pto lever fiber button is missing to me or slap worn out. Do a search on cub cadet fiber button.

do you mean this? Its there but I cannot tell if its worn out or not. the middle of the PTO isnt going in and out like it was when I first took the lever rod loose.

[J-Mech]

That PTO is now junk. It's been HOT. Take it off and rebuild it.

I'd suggest staying off Brian's site. He's a hack and shouldn't even be allowed to be on the internet. If you have questions, ask them here.

[rangrayy]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

That PTO is now junk. It's been HOT. Take it off and rebuild it.

I'd suggest staying off Brian's site. He's a hack and shouldn't even be allowed to be on the internet. If you have questions, ask them here.

Where can I find a rebuild kit for it? I've looked online and only found complete pto's for $250.

[DeltaCub]

Originally Posted by rangrayy

Where can I find a rebuild kit for it? I've looked online and only found complete pto's for $250.

Any Cub Cadet dealer...Cubcadet.com...One of the sponsers listed in the header.

[mortten]

You should also have the two metal contact surfaces faced on a lathe to make sure they are flat. If you don't have access to equipment or the skills sometimes buying one already done is a better bet if the work is guaranteed

[jaynjeep]

you can buy any parts for that PTO from any Cub Cadet dealer or online.. Ebay etc.. the rebuild kits come with a tool to adjust the preload on the clutch assy.. you do this with the three screws you see sticking out the front.. the adjustment is very sensitive.. hard to get it right and even without the tool.. the rebuild process and adjustment procedure is outlined in the service manual.

[rangrayy]

Originally Posted by mortten

You should also have the two metal contact surfaces faced on a lathe to make sure they are flat. If you don't have access to equipment or the skills sometimes buying one already done is a better bet if the work is guaranteed

I had planned on doing so just like with my clutch plates. The only tool I do not have is a lathe but I have access to one. As far skills go I am not new to engines by relatively new to small engines. Growing up my gpa always was the one fixing the cubs and I was too young to know what I was watching when I did help. Plus none of his had a PTO, they were just tractors he bought for us grandkids to ride around on his 22 acres. With some of the prices of all the components it might make sense to shell out the $250 for one but then again I have all winter to get it ready to mow by next spring.

Originally Posted by jaynjeep

you can buy any parts for that PTO from any Cub Cadet dealer or online.. Ebay etc.. the rebuild kits come with a tool to adjust the preload on the clutch assy.. you do this with the three screws you see sticking out the front.. the adjustment is very sensitive.. hard to get it right and even without the tool.. the rebuild process and adjustment procedure is outlined in the service manual.

I am searching locally to see if they have the parts as to skip the middle man of shipping and waiting. I'll have to print out a manual since mine did not come with one.

Thank you guys for the responses and input!

[R Bedell]

The PTO's can be rebuilt. See this link...... PTO
BTW, you have Type A.