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Old 01-17-2018, 11:54 PM
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There is clearance to slide the pump rearward an inch or so, so I think a slightly longer adapter shaft could be used, even if it was pinned to the hydro but it might only engage the pump shaft by 1 inch, which is probably enough. I'll have to check that out.
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Old 01-18-2018, 11:03 AM
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1" of drive sleeve overlap on the pump end is plenty.
You will have less than that on the hydro output shaft.

I have a Gravely Promaster 400 that utilizes the same Sundstrand hydro drive unit as in our Cub Cadets.
The Gravely uses the hydro output shaft to power the shaft driven 72" wide mower deck turning three 24" blades.
The above as a reference as to "how much torque can it take" from the hydro output shaft.
And the Gravely is powered with a 31hp 1.3L three cylinder Yanmar diesel.
So the torque output going into the driveline is way more than a 12hp Kohler.
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Old 01-18-2018, 07:11 PM
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Been keeping up on the project for awhile! looking good, cant wait till you get it done.
some day when I can afford it maybe I will get a chance to play with hydraulics a little bit
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Old 01-18-2018, 09:12 PM
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Finished installing the drive for the hydraulic pump. Turns out there is not enough clearance to use a solid drive shaft from the hydro to the pump. Can't align the shafts with enough clearance to engage the shafts with a solid shaft extension.

After I pinned the reduction shaft to the hydro and found it quite solid, I decided to forgo the pillow block idea, and just put the lovejoy fitting on the shafts. There is zero looseness or play in the drive line. I think it will hold up fine.

I started running hydraulic lines today. Painted the sub frame, so once I get that installed I can mount the lift cylinder and measure for those hoses.

I'm closing in on this build. Only fabrication left is to mount the top end of the lift cylinder to the bed.
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Old 01-18-2018, 09:56 PM
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Been keeping up on the project for awhile! looking good, cant wait till you get it done.
some day when I can afford it maybe I will get a chance to play with hydraulics a little bit
It's my first foray into hydraulics, and it's been a fun learning experience. Always trying to learn new stuff. Not many things I won't try to do/build/repair. There are a few things I've decided to leave to the pros, though. Like going up on the roof. Don't do that anymore.
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Old 01-19-2018, 08:05 PM
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Getting closer. Finished the lift cylinder connection for the bed. The bed frame is off now being painted. Exposed portions will be IH White.

I measured for the two final hoses to the lift cylinder, so need to run over to NAPA tomorrow and get those made up. Once those are on, I can finally try out the hydraulics. Kinda keeping my fingers crossed.

The clearance between the forward bed side and the rear of the seat is close. I put a board across the uprights to simulate the bed panel to check seat position. I do have room to move the seat forward a tad if needed.

Finally, my logo idea. I'd put a small version on the sides of the hood above the normal CC 109 decals and a larger version on either side of the bed. The bed bottom and sides are going to be Starboard, which, if you've worked with materials like that, you know nothing sticks to it. Not epoxy, not paint, nothing. Only option is to make up a metal sign panel, paint it, apply the decal, and rivet or screw the sign to the side of the bed, which may be exactly what I do.

I'm still thinking about a double/side by side seat if I can find or make one. That may be a later project.
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Getting closer.
Looks great!

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I'm still thinking about a double/side by side seat if I can find or make one.
I'd stick with the normal seat. You still need to drive from the middle so a side-by-side doesn't really offer any benefit that I can see. Plus, I don't think it's as rugged looking.
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Heres an old school bus seat on a butt buggy 100--give you something to think about. My dad rigged this up WAAAAAAAY before anyone thought playing with old Cadets was cool--so forgive its bare budget appearance. The foot rest extensions are made from those metal frames Deere used to ship all their mowers in back in the mid 80's
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I have to say Frank you have made some huge progress with your project. Looking great and that pump mount and drive line came out fantastic. How did you come up with the name?
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Thanks guys.

As for the double seat, I think you only need your left foot to operate the brake, so other than steering, it could be operated from off to the side. Wouldn't be using it for a dump truck that way, but may want to haul stuff and let my better half ride along...

Just made up the name. Saw something called a Gamma Goat (google it) and it had a nice ring. So I figured if a "Cub" is a baby bear, a bigger "Cub" could be a Grizzly, right? At least that's my story and I'm stickin' to it.

Got all the hydraulics hooked up today and it tested out perfectly. Here's a short video (not sure why it's a bit jumpy). The spool valve is easily operated with the right foot. Pull to dump, push to return. I set it up to dump on "pull" to reduce risk of accidentally dumping but I think it's just as likely to accidentally pulling the lever as it is to push it with the foot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pS75DIz8X5k

I used starboard for the bed, and just mitered all the edges so the panels hold themselves in place without any screws. The rear panel is short, but I have another piece I will cut that will be the same height as the rest. It is also mitered, so it just slips in the uprights and is held by the side and bottom panel mitered edges. Because it is held by the mitered edges, it is easily removable--just lift it out.

And some pics. Still need to add some decals, the center tunnel cover, head and tail lights, etc. Then clean and paint the front wheels. And see what else needs attention.
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