Help with Cub Cadet Tiller Sleeve Hitch Conversion

[Shotgun Wedding]

Hello all,

I just bought an awesome 8HP Cub Cadet 38" Tiller, 190-400-100. It is in perfect shape, used only 20 hours on a gladiola farm then put away for 10 years and never touched. I pick it up tomorrow.





Here is where I need help. It is set up for 3pt hitch, and the sleeve hitch adapter package # 404 is not what I need for this. The adapter is for a sleeve hitch tractor that had the hitch integrated on the machine factory, which mine is not.

I want to put this on a GTX2100 and what I have is the JP electric sleeve hitch (Brinly Style). Does anyone know a good way to convert the tiller from 3 pt hitch to a Brinly style sleeve hitch?
Here is what I need to hook up to:


Thanks guys. Roland, ever since you showed me the picture of the Cub Cadet tiller, I've been looking! Finally paid off!!!

[Berwil]

This tiller need to rotate on the lift point as it is raised because the tail wheel stays on the ground. I think it would be easiest to try to pick it up from the stock lift rod location. Don't worry about the center folding link, it is a depth stop. If you don't have the proper CC 3 pt geometry it won't line up and will be useless anyway. It was too short for my homemade cat 0 so I ended up not using it, and it worked great, just had to keep and eye on it so it didn't dig to China.

I guess you could make a "reverse" brinly adptr that engages the lift rod on the tiller and pins to the sleeve hitch. One issue you need to work out is lift height, your stuck with a set sleeve hitch height based on the actuator. Sitting on the ground the tiller needs to travel down 6" and up at least 3" so it's not dragging all the time. The lift point on the tiller is very high, 17" if I remember correctly. That means you need to get up to 20-21" to have any transport clearance and down to 11" for max tilling. I don't think you'll get the proper travel without making the reversed adptr pretty long. The downside to that is the longer adptr will kill your lifting capacity.

I think your best option is to take some 3/8" x 1 1/2" flat stock and build "3pt arms" that bolt to the side of the sleeve hitch and pick up on the tiller mount. You will probably have to angle them up from the brinly adptr and add gussets for support to get the height you need without making them too long and loosing lift capacity.

It's going to take some figuring to find out if either of these ideas will work for you before you get building. Would hate to see you...."shotgun" an adptr that looked great it didn't work.

[Shotgun Wedding]

Thanks Berwil!

That is some good info. I also got in contact with JeffinPa, if cant do it....no one can! Since he makes and sells the sleeve hitch yoke and is an excellent fabricator I am hoping he could build me a ready to go piece to drop in and till for $.

I am a fair home mechanic and electrician....but no fabricator!!!

I will keep everyone abridged of the progress.

Rob

[Jeff in Pa]

Replied to your email. Once we figure out mounting, we can post details here in the thread.

[Shotgun Wedding]

Drove a mere hour and a half to pick this beauty up. As I put in a previous thread, owner bought new back in late 90's for over $1800, used it for 20 hours on a gladiola farm pulled by a CC 1863. The engine blew on the tractor, owner sold the tractor for parts and put the tiller away in storage. He ran the gas out, changed the oil, covered it and forgot about for 15 years.

His brother decided to help him sell it to clear out some junk. I showed up, we put a little gas in the tank, checked oil...all good. Choke and 3 pulls she was running like a new machine. Holy Cow! Air Cleaner is toast, falls apart with just a touch but other than that it is awesome.

Owner said that the dealer sold 2 of these during their 80 years as an IH farm dealer...no wonder these aren't made anymore. It really is a robust machine.

He gave me the op manual and the op manual for the 1863/1864 SGT! Nice Cyclops. Anybody want it? For a Model 1863 serial number 000851640 manual? Free to a good home.

$275.00, gave him $300 just because.

[ACecil]

Nice find on the tiller.

[Berwil]

Looks Great!

[Sam Mac]

This is what Cub had for that tiller when it was used with a sleeve hitch.

[Shotgun Wedding]

Hi Sam,

I looked at that and downloaded the Manual for the 404 adapter, funny in that what they call a sleeve hitch isn't what I would call a sleeve hitch, they are referring to the mechanical rock shaft as the sleeve hitch. Weird.

This adapter sits pretty high up on the back of the tractor, JeffinPa is going to fix me up with a modified adaptor to fit mine. Sent him some measurements last night.

[rwairforce]

Shotgun,
Fantastic tiller find at an excellent price to boot. Good luck with the adapter, I'm sure Jeff, our Cub Custom Fabricator (I just gave you a title) can take care of you. Isn't this Forum awesome? We have technical consultants, parts assistance and a custom fab shop in PA. Looking forward to the pictures of the finished project.

Thanks again Jeff for offering your expertise.

Randy