Brinly/Cole Planter

[DieselDoctor]

That's a neat little planter! Being a city boy, I love learning about things from the farm. I really enjoy it when someone shares mechanical information on "odd" or rare equipment.

[Rescue11]

So when you dig the other one out, I'll arrange to have this one sent out here for extensive field testing!! Awesome looking toy! Putting starter tank on it?

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Rescue11

So when you dig the other one out, I'll arrange to have this one sent out here for extensive field testing!! Awesome looking toy! Putting starter tank on it?

I would like to put a saddle tanks on the tractor for starter fertilizer. I'm a fan of 10-34-0 and 28% mix. But not sure if I want to use that on sweet corn or not. Still on the fence. If I had saddle tanks, I could also side dress a second time during cultivation. Before I get too involved, I just want to know if it (planter) works well or not. I'm not a big fan of "rail" planters. I'd rather have double disk. But, unless I build one, or buy one, it's not an "easy" option. One thing at a time.

If it works, I may try to find the dry fertilizer box for it. It was optional on this planter. I just think liquid is better. Personal preference. We used to run dry box, but it's so corrosive. You have to clean everything up with water really good and dry it out to keep it from rusting. Tanks and lines are easier to clean out.

[J-Mech]

Annnnnndddd...... it rained today. For about 3 hours this morning. *Sigh*. I may get to plant something this year.

[mjsoldcub]

Could you make that thing plant like seedlings without messing it up??? That is really cool....I wish I could find a little tree planter of the same sort/size.....
Very cool Jon..

[Rescue11]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

I would like to put a saddle tanks on the tractor for starter fertilizer. I'm a fan of 10-34-0 and 28% mix. But not sure if I want to use that on sweet corn or not. Still on the fence. If I had saddle tanks, I could also side dress a second time during cultivation. Before I get too involved, I just want to know if it (planter) works well or not. I'm not a big fan of "rail" planters. I'd rather have double disk. But, unless I build one, or buy one, it's not an "easy" option. One thing at a time.

If it works, I may try to find the dry fertilizer box for it. It was optional on this planter. I just think liquid is better. Personal preference. We used to run dry box, but it's so corrosive. You have to clean everything up with water really good and dry it out to keep it from rusting. Tanks and lines are easier to clean out.

Rained a bunch here too.

So, ohh ohh ohhh, i have saddle tanks!!! Brackets are for my 1450, but... Yes liquid fert is hands down the best way to go. Its still corrosive as hell, but keep it washed off, no problem.

Dont stress about putting liquid starter in-row with sweet corn. Old agronomist puts it and 28% on his sweet corn patch. Ever seen 8' sweet corn? Pretty neat.

Always wanted to make a 2 row with early risers and a small bulk fill... Idk tho. Too many other irons.

[john hall]

Regional styles I guess, but no way I'd want to have to deal with liquid nitrogen on a garden. The way I do corn is to spray the nitrogen and then lightly incorporate it. Then I plant. Years ago we used to spray the nitrogen with the corn planter, had a boom behind the closing wheels that ran across the machine. To be honest I think there was a lot of evaporative loss and without rain the atrazine didn't work as well. but all that was WAY before my time. That setup was on a Deere 1240 planter. We actually used it to plant garden, so yes, 8' Silver Queen corn was the norm. We also had butterbean and snap bean plates. Do you realize just how fast you can plate 12 rows of beans like that? And then we would plow them with the 4 row cultivator. I was real good at snapping beans and watching TV. My kid has no idea how easy he has it.

Dry fertilizer shouldn't be a problem if you wash the planter real good and then oil it down. Speaking of which I haven't put the augers back in mine yet, they are sitting smack in the middle of the shop so I don't forget to baptize them in oil. Hmmmm, just changed oil in 2 Cadets yesterday.

Using Cadets for gardening here was never popular, but rigging up a 1 row planter would be extremely practical, providing you didn't want the rows in a tall bed. The same problem exist here that Jmech mentioned earlier. Every enterprising, self employed welder grabs up all the "cheap" corn planters (especially those with self contained row unit drives), and makes 1 or 2 row units with either IH fast hitch, or 3pt. Heck, I've seen some for sale where the guys literally cut a 4 row unit in 1/2.

Anyway, just rambling.

[john hall]

Originally Posted by mjsoldcub

Could you make that thing plant like seedlings without messing it up??? That is really cool....I wish I could find a little tree planter of the same sort/size.....
Very cool Jon..

You are talking about a transplanter, not a planter. Research Holland Transplanters. The South was full of them at one time for planting tobacco. 50 years ago they would be mounted on the back of the offset series IH tractors (Super A-140). Those used pulled plants and took 2 people per row to load. Basically the same unit just got mounted on tool bars up to 4 rows wide. Those finally got parked in the weeds in the 90's when everyone went to greenhouse grown seedlings.

Take a look:
http://transplanter.com/

Now if you want to plant trees, they do/did make units that only takes one guy to ride. A lot of acreage here was planted in pines in the late 80's/90's. Those units were working in former ag fields, part of some ag program similar to CRP. The reason I point that out is they weren't having to deal with tree roots that you would encounter if were land that had been completely cut over.
The one I remember was mounted on a tractor the size of those little Yanmars Deere had (6 and7xx series).

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by john hall

Regional styles I guess, but no way I'd want to have to deal with liquid nitrogen on a garden. The way I do corn is to spray the nitrogen and then lightly incorporate it. Then I plant. Years ago we used to spray the nitrogen with the corn planter, had a boom behind the closing wheels that ran across the machine. To be honest I think there was a lot of evaporative loss and without rain the atrazine didn't work as well. but all that was WAY before my time. That setup was on a Deere 1240 planter. We actually used it to plant garden, so yes, 8' Silver Queen corn was the norm. We also had butterbean and snap bean plates. Do you realize just how fast you can plate 12 rows of beans like that? And then we would plow them with the 4 row cultivator. I was real good at snapping beans and watching TV. My kid has no idea how easy he has it.

Dry fertilizer shouldn't be a problem if you wash the planter real good and then oil it down. Speaking of which I haven't put the augers back in mine yet, they are sitting smack in the middle of the shop so I don't forget to baptize them in oil. Hmmmm, just changed oil in 2 Cadets yesterday.

Using Cadets for gardening here was never popular, but rigging up a 1 row planter would be extremely practical, providing you didn't want the rows in a tall bed. The same problem exist here that Jmech mentioned earlier. Every enterprising, self employed welder grabs up all the "cheap" corn planters (especially those with self contained row unit drives), and makes 1 or 2 row units with either IH fast hitch, or 3pt. Heck, I've seen some for sale where the guys literally cut a 4 row unit in 1/2.

Anyway, just rambling.

I don't know about using 28% being a regional thing. I think it's more a larger farm thing. If I'm not mistaken, there are a lot of guys in your area like you. 100 acres or less. Well.... if that's all the acres you have, you aren't going to live off of it, so why bother with fertilizers. Especially 28% as expensive as it is. In my area if you don't have 1500 acres, you don't "farm", your a "hobby" farmer. Any smaller and you can't make a living. Even guys with 1500 acres sometimes have other jobs. Not making fun of you guys down there, it's just different. It's easy for me to get a little 28% to put on a garden. We did it on our garden growing up.... put we didn't use it for starter. Just put it on the sweetcorn while we were side dressing corn.

Is it worth it for a garden? No way. I only spend all the time I do with all this "equipment" because I think it's a blast! It's my little "hobby farm". I don't make a dime off of it, and honestly, I can't get my wife to can anything, (and I don't have the time to do it) so we just kind of eat out of the garden while it's there. It is a total waste of money and time, but I enjoy it.

Originally Posted by mjsoldcub

Could you make that thing plant like seedlings without messing it up??? That is really cool....I wish I could find a little tree planter of the same sort/size.....
Very cool Jon..

Thanks!
John addressed the tree planter stuff. He's right. To plant trees you need a transplanter. We call them tree planters, but they take at least two people. One to drive the tractor, and one to plant the trees. They don't make anything that is self driven.

If your serious, you could build a pull type. Wouldn't have to be mounted. Not much to them really.

[john hall]

[QUOTE=J-Mech;421448]I don't know about using 28% being a regional thing. I think it's more a larger farm thing. If I'm not mistaken, there are a lot of guys in your area like you. 100 acres or less. Well.... if that's all the acres you have, you aren't going to live off of it, so why bother with fertilizers. Especially 28% as expensive as it is. In my area if you don't have 1500 acres, you don't "farm", your a "hobby" farmer. Any smaller and you can't make a living. Even guys with 1500 acres sometimes have other jobs. Not making fun of you guys down there, it's just different. It's easy for me to get a little 28% to put on a garden. We did it on our garden growing up.... put we didn't use it for starter. Just put it on the sweetcorn while we were side dressing corn.
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I think what we use is 30 or 33%, I don't know for sure. I know its not anhydrous or whatever is used in the Midwest. Lots of funny stories I've heard about folks over fertilizing sweet corn causing upset stomachs. On sweet corn we always put out all the fertilizer at planting. Man, all this talk about gardening is about enough to make me want to plant some garden. We used to freeze 120-150 ears of corn on the cob every year. We always preferred Silver Queen. In recent years Golden Queen and Peaches and Cream are gaining popularity. When I was a kid, my mother cut the corn off the cob to freeze it, normally about 700 ears worth.

For the record, most of the farmers here are 2-500 hundred acres, just spread out due to hilly land and houses and lots of trees. Tobacco is the difference maker, average revenue is over $4,000 per acre---money like that evens the playing field quick.

Eastern NC is no different than the Midwest regarding farm size. Huge farms, flat land, giant equipment--how else do we rank#2 in hog production--gotta raise what they eat somehow! There are practically no little guys like me grain farming, quite a few though raising hay.

Enough rambling by me, go get some action shots of your planter! FWIW a lot of folks here are having trouble getting in fields and gardens too due to the rain.