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Old 05-09-2017, 12:21 AM
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Default 44c spindle rebuild
I'm having troubles uploading pictures from my phone, sorry. I have a 44c with water pump style bearings. one of the bearings is REALLY bad, the other 2 are not so bad. Upon taking them apart, the one that's really bad was rebuilt by previous owner with a plastic looking seal on both ends. The other 2 have metal seals and a small rubber/spring seal that sits between the spacer and metal seal. I'm guessing the bad bearing with the plastic seal wasn't rebuilt correctly? Anyone know the correct part number for the metal seals to rebuild these?

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Old 05-11-2017, 11:27 AM
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Thanks R Bedell for the reply. I might have misspoke when I called it a water pump style bearing. I've attached a picture of the bearing I'm talking about. I believe it's the rebuildable style. The seal in the picture is the metal style seal that I'd like to use on the rebuild. I've been seeing the plastic/rubber style seal for sale online. I'm hoping to find a metal style. Does anyone know the part number for the metal style seal? Has anyone rebuilt these and does anyone have a preference as to one or the other types of seals?

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Old 05-11-2017, 11:31 AM
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Here's a pic of the plastic style seal that has failed. I'm assuming this one's been rebuilt once before because the other two spindle have the metal style seals and are not that sloppy. This one is really bad...

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Old 05-11-2017, 12:36 PM
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The "rubber" seal is just rubber coated. Still has a steel backing. As long as it's installed properly, and has the dust cover between the blade and the seal (large cup that goes up and over the housing) either seal will be fine. It's no big deal to get a steel housing seal. Just do it by size. ID/OD/THK. Make sure to install it upside down or you will blow it out when greasing.


Your understanding of the metal seal is wrong also.
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The other 2 have metal seals and a small rubber/spring seal that sits between the spacer and metal seal.
Those seals are junk. They are supposed to be one piece. They have come apart. Replace all the seals and bad/loose bearings.
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:08 PM
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J-mech,

You posted to this thread a while back about installing the seal upside down, I just wanted to confirm that you meant to install the seal with the flat part toward the center of the bearing (please see attached photo). Do I do this on both sides of the bearing? I now have five used bearings for this deck and another deck I'm working on. All the seals are installed four different ways between all five bearings.

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Old 06-17-2017, 03:30 PM
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Yes, install it like you show, but only on the bottom seal. If you do it on the top, grease will spit out and get on the belt. Don't want that!
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Old 06-17-2017, 03:45 PM
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The number for the CR seal is 12386. They were on the bottom of my 1863. The tractor was my dads and no one had ever been into the spindles.
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Got it, great! Thank you guys for the responses.
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