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Old 06-20-2017, 01:51 AM
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Default 1872 A simple engine swap

I purchase a Magnum 20 from Joe (BIGMOZEKE) Well... I didn't pay a penny yet, not even for the shipping or for the magnificent crate he send the engine in! What was supposed to be a simple engine swap became a collection of issue to take care of.

I remove the M18 Saturday, beside a missing cradle bolt and one of the front hydraulic hose damaged it was a pretty straight forward job, OK let's finish the swap Sunday and take care of the hydraulic issue Monday! Sound simple....

Sunday morning I remove the M20 from is crate and notice some greasy "goo goo" inside the left cylinder heat shield, I decide to remove all the shielding from the engine and take a closer look at this low hour engine. Here what I found:

A good 1 1/2" tick "Chunk" of goo goo


Almost forgot to mention, I have been kidnap Sunday morning, no garage work for me on father day!

Monday morning back from the hydraulic shop with my new hoses, day 3 of my swap attempt.... I can't pin point the guilty leak on the M20, I torque the jug and head to spec, clean all the sludge inside all shield and proceed to finish the job

I remove the drive shaft flange assembly from the M18, apart a missing bolt to fix it she look not right...Well she's not! I need a new one.


Another step back, I have no choice to test this engine on the bench so I can send Joe a check like we agree since he don't want me to send him any money before this engine run at my satisfaction. Now I notice another problem, the power steering metal line are wet, something is leaking. (I take picture tomorrow)

Here a picture of the now clean M20 and the crate he was send in.
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Old 06-20-2017, 08:04 PM
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Look like I need a new PTO to Ouch! $$$ (#717-3043 #917-3043)


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That 1872 kinda looks familiar.
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I don't think Xtreme makes a PTO with a 1-1/4" bore. Found this on Flea Bay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IH-CUB-CADET...oAAOSwstJZQZ71
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That 1872 kinda looks familiar.
Yes he sure do.

Got my hands full, he keep me busy and finding a PTO for the M20 for a fair price is a huge challenge.

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I don't think Xtreme makes a PTO with a 1-1/4" bore. Found this on Flea Bay
This must be the "rebuilt" one for $350 Sam, I'm in deep....
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Who knew that two extra horsepower could be so expensive?
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And to think, I had a good mag 18 when you guys were here.
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wish I could find any 18-20HP HORIZONTAL Magnum engines for sale that aren't a stripped down, pile of parts..... verticals come up fairly often... vertical shaft engines do me no good these days.
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Who knew that two extra horsepower could be so expensive?
Apparently not me, but I ask and was tell he should fit, go figure! Many seller list their PTO been good for the 1872 and 2072 but it's not true, some 2072 used the 52-014-71-S crank and the PTO end is 2-11/16 X 1-1/4 not 1-1/8" like the 1872. No need to ask me how I learn that one...
Now I 'm wondering why the M18 in that 1872 got a 1" crankshaft
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Apparently not me, but I ask and was tell he should fit, go figure! Many seller list their PTO been good for the 1872 and 2072 but it's not true, some 2072 used the 52-014-71-S crank and the PTO end is 2-11/16 X 1-1/4 not 1-1/8" like the 1872. No need to ask me how I learn that one...
Now I 'm wondering why the M18 in that 1872 got a 1" crankshaft
I believe all the mag 20's had the 1 1/4" crank, and the 18's had the 1" crank. I believe this topic has been brought up before by people doing this same swap.
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