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Old 07-13-2014, 01:59 PM
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You definently have a tuff growing season. I would look into a summer/drought blend grass.
I'm sure Scotts and other seed producers have some sort of blend. If you use mulching blades and don't cut grass that's 6 inches tall you shouldn't have any thatch build up..
But I thatch not to brake it up but to scratch the dirt/sold and pick up the blades of grass so the grass seed gets to the ground. Then use a drag rake to (old fence) level everything out. You should use a roller to get the seed contact with the ground. Water once to get the seed going. I don't think you need to core aerate before seeding.
Also leave the grass 3.5 to 4 inches high.. Keeps the soil cooler and moist longer. Plus it helps to keep the weed seeds from germinating.
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Old 07-13-2014, 02:27 PM
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You definently have a tuff growing season. I would look into a summer/drought blend grass.
I'm sure Scotts and other seed producers have some sort of blend.
I overseeded last fall with Rebel Southern Blend, it was the first to go since it was young grass without a well established root system.It contains Rebel 4 and Rebel Exeda cultivars, which are fairly highly rated. I don't think there's any fescue type that will withstand these conditions without going dormant. KBG is better about full sun but requires more water. I'm considering adding 10% KBG this year, although it's not recommended for this area. But I'm definitely going to give it my best and use Bullseye seed, which is the top performer for the area in NTEP tests. Maybe I should look into replacing Tall Fescue with Zoysia.
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These methods are VERY
Actually, seeding just before a snow storm is a pretty good time to seed, it packs the seed tight against the soil....
Are you being serious? Will the seed actually come up in the spring?
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I Maybe I should look into replacing Tall Fescue with Zoysia.
It would probably take the heat and lack of water better.....
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Are you being serious? Will the seed actually come up in the spring?
No different than planting winter wheat or winter rye. Grass seed is cool like that.
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Old 07-13-2014, 03:19 PM
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Why does everyone in the midwest make such a big deal about getting it out in the spring and covering it with hay and watering it and everything then? Seems like a huge PITA so I never bothered...

If I knew I could just toss it on the ground on a clear day in January I'd have been planting some more grass long ago!
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Why does everyone in the midwest make such a big deal about getting it out in the spring and covering it with hay and watering it and everything then? Seems like a huge PITA so I never bothered...

If I knew I could just toss it on the ground on a clear day in January I'd have been planting some more grass long ago!
You cover with straw. Hay will grow.....

It's really NBD. Works too! The straw isn't for the seed. It's for the soil. So it doesn't wash away until the grass is established. It also starts the thatch bed.
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Shows what I know about the topic!

I just watch what my neighbors are doing and I'm like "it grows fast enough"... Now I have some places that I must repair due to plumbing issues.

January it is!
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I just watch what my neighbors are doing and I'm like "it grows fast enough"... Now I have some places that I must repair due to plumbing issues.

January it is!
I would encourage you to do some research before you seed to avoid wasted time and money. Generally cool season grasses should be seeded in September, maybe sooner if you're living in a cooler area. The reason is to allow the grass time to develop a root system before next summer hits. Also, if you're waiting for the seed to sprout in the spring you won't be able to apply any kind of pre-emergent, and the weeds will also grow at will smothering your grass. This seems to be a good resource for your area:

http://www.agry.purdue.edu/turf/homeowner.html
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An important thread because, well, if the grass doesn't grow fast and thick then we would need fewer tractors......
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