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Old 02-01-2018, 10:16 PM
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Welcome to OCC! I love 82 series cubs, and it looks like the one you have is still in great original shape. I'd take it over that one next to it in a heartbeat

Just general background info for you:

You have a MTD built 782. IH stopped (and MTD started) building them in June of 81, so anything after that is MTD. It is almost identical to the IH built ones, except it likely has an aluminum rear end casting instead of a cast iron one that IH ones would have. That's not an awful thing at all, just make sure that the bolts that attach the frame to the rear casting are tight.

Please check out the tech section for the service manuals and operators manuals for it. They will have everything you'll ever need to know about your tractor in them.

The KT-17 II is the better of the two engines that these would have come with, so that's very good. It is a battery/points ignition just like the previous K series cubs. The ignition system is basically the same as those single cylinder ones, except the coil fires 2 plugs instead of 1.

If those are all original hours and the engine hasn't been touched, it's likely that engine is pretty worn out. That's pretty close to the max expected time between overhaul you'd expect out of a K series engine. I'd check compression and see what that looks like. The manual says a 10% difference between cylinders is a problem. It also says under 90PSI is a problem.

The KT-17 (and M18s) do tend to have fuel pump failures. Usually, when they fail, the membrane is what fails and you end up with gas going into your crankcase. This is the most likely fuel-related failure on these (other than the obvious carb problems with a engine that has sat for a while). Check the oil level and see what that looks (and maybe smells like). The fuel pump isn't hard to replace if that's what it is.

Also, listen to ol' George on these things. He's a wealth of knowledge on the Kohler horizontal twins.

Most of all, that tractor looks super well taken care of, considering it's 34 years old. A good bath, some wax, and a new seat and it'd look basically new!
Thank you, the one next to it is a better mower, and it is shaft drive, but it'll stay a mower and cart puller. I'd like to get the 782 in good running condition and use it as a plow tractor, and maybe get a Johnny Bucket for it. There is a label on the dash that says the engine was rebuilt at 1117 hrs in 1995. I'll plug away at it, once running it seems strong. I already ordered a seat.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:18 PM
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You're certainly on the right track to check the spark. Don't be surprised if you eventually have to change the ignition switch, I seem to have terrible luck with them. Once you get it sparking, then you can rule out other things like fuel or even low compression. Get some spark and then report back. If the battery is bad get a new one--strongest thing that will fit. If the plugs look ancient or gunked up, I'd get new ones, only cost about $5-6 for the pair.
Glad you are getting it back going.
Thanks, just ordered a switch, I'll pick up some plugs tomorrow.
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Old 02-01-2018, 10:28 PM
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Thank you, the one next to it is a better mower, and it is shaft drive, but it'll stay a mower and cart puller. I'd like to get the 782 in good running condition and use it as a plow tractor, and maybe get a Johnny Bucket for it. There is a label on the dash that says the engine was rebuilt at 1117 hrs in 1995. I'll plug away at it, once running it seems strong. I already ordered a seat.

Nice! Well should have plenty of life left in it still then. Those 782 rear ends are almost indestructible with a factory power plant in them.

Get that engine chooching properly, and plow away!
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So I'm doing a lot of reading and figuring out where to get parts if I need them. Where can I get a condenser for the KT17 Series 2? It seems like nobody has them in stock? I found the part # on partstree.
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Do you have a good local dealer? If so it wouldn't be a bad thing to get a relationship started there. The old tractor is going to need some parts, and CC still offers a lot of stuff for them.
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Joe, welcome to OCC. This is the best place on the net for Cub Cadet info.

That is awesome that you got your dad's 782. I have my dad's 982 and it holds a special place in my heart....and the garage.

Your tractor was actually the 1318th built in 1985 so it was probably made in January. The engine was built in 1984. Here is a link to the engine manual if you need it. http://www.kohlerengines.com.cn/onli.../tp_2043_a.pdf

The others have gave you some great advice. I would also pull the tunnel cover off and check the driveline for any wear and pull the rear cover off the rear and give it a good cleaning. That paint looks pretty good too and it should buff out to look showroom new.

I'm also liking that XT3 next to it. I have my eye on one if I can work the deal out. Keep feeding us the pics on your progress.
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Nice 782. Does it have the IH grille emblem and hood ornament? Those are generally missing on those series. Is the grill in good shape? Good luck getting it running, it will clean up nicely.
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Will this work incase the plastic plug for the ignition switch is bad?

http://isavetractors.com/universal-wiring-harness/
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Old 02-02-2018, 08:02 AM
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Nice 782. Does it have the IH grille emblem and hood ornament? Those are generally missing on those series. Is the grill in good shape? Good luck getting it running, it will clean up nicely.
Thanks, the grill is really good shape. I don't recall if it has the emblems, I'll look at it tonight.
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Will this work incase the plastic plug for the ignition switch is bad?

http://isavetractors.com/universal-wiring-harness/
As I said before, slow down and check things systematically.
The individual female terminal connectors are available as well as just the plug.
it was just posted a week or so ago here, hopefully someone will post the link for you.
Yes that plug and wire whip will work but you might have move the terminals around in the plug to get the colors to match the wiring diagram, just so you know what is going on some time in the future.
Usually the ignition plug has only one or two terminals that arc and that causes the wire ends to loose the spring tension that insures a tight contact.
also the arcing causes the plating on the ignition switch male spade to corrode and rust, making the contact loose it's connection, it is a snowball effect.
so changing the switch and the bad/ corroded terminals in the plug solves the problem for a long time.
Now on the condenser, it would be prudent/thrifty to wait till it is bad before replacing it, many are still working as good as the day they were made, and you state it runs good, once running.
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