Only Cub Cadets

PLEASE PATRONIZE OUR SPONSORS!

CC Speciaalties R. F. Houtz and Sons

Patton Acres IH Cub Cadet Parts

Cub Cadet Parts & Service


If you would like to help maintain this site & enhance it, feel free to donate whatever amount you would like to!




Attention Folks we have a new owner!
Greg Rozar AKA- CubDieselFan


Go Back   Only Cub Cadets > Cub Cadets > Customized Cub Cadets

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #241  
Old 01-31-2018, 08:51 PM
IHinIN's Avatar
IHinIN IHinIN is online now
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,833
Default

Sounds like you’ve got plenty of dumping capacity. Have fun with the tile work. I kinda enjoy tiling but my knees always let me know they don’t enjoy it so much. Lol
__________________
Adam

1964 Model 100 w/ K301 12hp and custom hydraulics
1972 Model 149 turned 129 w/ K301 12hp, triple hydraulics, 66 series clone
Reply With Quote
  #242  
Old 01-31-2018, 10:55 PM
sawdustdad's Avatar
sawdustdad sawdustdad is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,627
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by IHinIN View Post
Sounds like you’ve got plenty of dumping capacity. Have fun with the tile work. I kinda enjoy tiling but my knees always let me know they don’t enjoy it so much. Lol
Yeah, I think it can dump anything that will fit in the bed except, perhaps, lead bricks. I don't see any way to overload it with any common material.

I like tiling, too. Wood, metal, stone, it's all just Legos for grownups.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #243  
Old 05-01-2018, 11:27 PM
sawdustdad's Avatar
sawdustdad sawdustdad is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,627
Default

Thought I'd follow up with another pic. Wife hauling some plants around the property. Actually have found this pretty handy for moving stuff from the house around to the workshop (especially tools from recent bathroom remodel).
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 20180430_151835.jpg (27.6 KB, 424 views)
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #244  
Old 05-02-2018, 12:35 PM
olds45512's Avatar
olds45512 olds45512 is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Indiana, PA
Posts: 8,290
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sawdustdad View Post
Thought I'd follow up with another pic. Wife hauling some plants around the property. Actually have found this pretty handy for moving stuff from the house around to the workshop (especially tools from recent bathroom remodel).
Glad it's working out for you. I'd like to build something similar one of these days.

Do you go on GT talk? There's a guy over there with the screen name tomanytoys that's a Cub guy and just finished remodeling his bathroom, just wondering if it's the same person.
__________________
Tim
Pap's 100
Restored 108
1211 Dual Stick
1050
Pap's 100 restoration thread - http://onlycubcadets.net/forum/showthread.php?t=47965
Reply With Quote
  #245  
Old 05-02-2018, 04:21 PM
IHCubCadet147's Avatar
IHCubCadet147 IHCubCadet147 is online now
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: PA
Posts: 1,724
Default

I just found this thread now. That's pretty cool. You did a great job!
__________________
125, 126, 147, 129, 149 x 2, 1450, 882, 1810, 1320, 1440, 2135, 2 129’s for parts/project, 1950 Farmall Cub
38" LT mower deck, 4 42" triangle mower decks, 2 44A mower decks, 2 50C mower decks, 42” GT deck, 3 42" snow/dirt blades, 42" landscape rake, #4 cart
Reply With Quote
  #246  
Old 05-02-2018, 10:06 PM
sawdustdad's Avatar
sawdustdad sawdustdad is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,627
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by olds45512 View Post
Glad it's working out for you. I'd like to build something similar one of these days.

Do you go on GT talk? There's a guy over there with the screen name tomanytoys that's a Cub guy and just finished remodeling his bathroom, just wondering if it's the same person.
Not me over there. But the name "Toomanytoys" is probably apropos for my situation.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #247  
Old 05-02-2018, 10:47 PM
sawdustdad's Avatar
sawdustdad sawdustdad is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,627
Default

Just a couple parting comments for others thinking about something similar now that I've had a chance to use it some more. It's all about compromises between cost, build time/complexity, bed size/capacity, turning radius, and overall width (to fit through gates.)

My workshop is about 100 feet from the house and attached garage, so I am constantly moving stuff back and forth--tools (miter saw, saw horses, jobsite table saw, tile saw, etc) that I am using for various remodeling jobs. Lots of this stuff gets staged in the garage during the remodeling work then needs to go back to the workshop after the job is done. Used to use the truck, now I'm using this tandem cub as the truck often has lumber or other stuff in it.

Another advantage is this Cub will go right through a 4 foot gate when carrying landscaping stuff into the back yard. There is a truck gate but it's in the back and much more involved to get through. That's where my wife was headed in that picture with a couple large potted plants and a bag of potting soil. She has also adopted the bed as a potting bench which is a convenient height for repotting plants.

I wish I had extended the frame and moved both axles rearward about 6 inches. That would increase the turning radius, but it would increase the size of the bed which is quite limited on my build. I actually moved the seat forward a inch or so to maximize the bed size.

The two axles are 24 inches on center. I think that's about right. Further apart would increase "scrubbing" tires on turns. Still does it some as is.

I would have loved to have live axles rather than fixed. I've had a couple times where scaling a steep hill on sandy soil it's spun out and I had to back up and take another run up the hill. It's only been a problem on a steep hillside with very soft sandy soil, as we have here near the coast.

I looked for ways to mount the axles on springs, air bags, etc, but could not find anything I felt would fit. If someone else can solve that problem at reasonable cost, I'd love to see it.

The hydraulics worked out great and I really like the foot operated dump valve location. I'd do it exactly the same way if doing it again.

Hope that helps the next person think through the various issues of such a build.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #248  
Old 12-14-2018, 12:56 PM
cheesedawg82's Avatar
cheesedawg82 cheesedawg82 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 226
Default

Absolutely awesome build. I've really enjoyed reading this, and I've really learned a lot, although a few things do have me curious, and I hope you don't mind my questions on your thread.

1. Hydro Pump - In hindsight, what are your thoughts on simply running an automotive power steering pump off of the Starter/Generator belt and using the same or similar plumbing? This seems simple and cost effective, and it would allow you to mount the filter up front near the engine, higher than the tanks. You did an amazing job on the pump installation, it looks awesome for a loader or a machine that would get see constant use of the hydraulics, but is it overkill for this particular purpose? Do you think a simple Linear Actuator would have done just as well without all the hassle? (Note - Please don't take that question as an insult, if the particular purpose was quality craftsmanship and the additional time and expense required to do so was worth it to you as the builder, you nailed it. I'm curious of your input on the pros and cons).

2. Tandem Axles causing tire scrub during turning. - Could you build a linkage to the fluid drive manual bypass control valve of the rear transaxle that's accessible from the seat? The rear would then theoretically run like a tag axle and nothing would bind. Would this be helpful to you at all? Would lightening the pressure relief spring on the front unit (or stiffening the rear) accomplish the same thing mechanically? How about the ability to engage and disengage both front and rear hydraulics? How do you engage the front bypass to push it? (Note, this afterthought may or may not help you, but I can definitely see it as useful if someone else were to follow suit with a different frame configuration).
Reply With Quote
  #249  
Old 01-26-2019, 10:58 PM
sawdustdad's Avatar
sawdustdad sawdustdad is offline
Grand Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: USA
Posts: 2,627
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cheesedawg82 View Post
Absolutely awesome build. I've really enjoyed reading this, and I've really learned a lot, although a few things do have me curious, and I hope you don't mind my questions on your thread.

1. Hydro Pump - In hindsight, what are your thoughts on simply running an automotive power steering pump off of the Starter/Generator belt and using the same or similar plumbing? This seems simple and cost effective, and it would allow you to mount the filter up front near the engine, higher than the tanks. You did an amazing job on the pump installation, it looks awesome for a loader or a machine that would get see constant use of the hydraulics, but is it overkill for this particular purpose? Do you think a simple Linear Actuator would have done just as well without all the hassle? (Note - Please don't take that question as an insult, if the particular purpose was quality craftsmanship and the additional time and expense required to do so was worth it to you as the builder, you nailed it. I'm curious of your input on the pros and cons).

2. Tandem Axles causing tire scrub during turning. - Could you build a linkage to the fluid drive manual bypass control valve of the rear transaxle that's accessible from the seat? The rear would then theoretically run like a tag axle and nothing would bind. Would this be helpful to you at all? Would lightening the pressure relief spring on the front unit (or stiffening the rear) accomplish the same thing mechanically? How about the ability to engage and disengage both front and rear hydraulics? How do you engage the front bypass to push it? (Note, this afterthought may or may not help you, but I can definitely see it as useful if someone else were to follow suit with a different frame configuration).
Just now seeing your questions, cheese...

I considered mounting the hydraulic pump to the PTO, allowing it to be turned on and off. I actually built the mount for that, but abandoned that in favor of the rear mount method to keep it hidden and free up the PTO for other tasks. It would have worked either way.

As for the linear actuator, it would work but getting one that can push 2000 lbs and work reasonably fast, and not pull 50 amps proved problematic. If you reduced the capacity and/or the speed, it might be workable. Part of the decision was to learn how to do it hydraulically. I'd previously built a dump trailer with a linear actuator.

Both hydrostats have auto relief valves, so pushing is no problem. Since the axles are solid mounted and don't operate independently, disabling one axle could strand the machine if the driven axle lost traction due to uneven terrain. Having the second axle providing power generally prevents this. The tire scrubbing is not too bad. It does limit the turning radius, however. By no means a perfect arrangement, but it does work well enough to be a useful machine.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.

Cub Cadet is a premium line of outdoor power equipment, established in 1961 as part of International Harvester. During the 1960s, IH initiated an entirely new line of lawn and garden equipment aimed at the owners rural homes with large yards and private gardens. There were a wide variety of Cub Cadet branded and after-market attachments available; including mowers, blades, snow blowers, front loaders, plows, carts, etc. Cub Cadet advertising at that time harped on their thorough testing by "boys - acknowledged by many as the world's worst destructive force!". Cub Cadets became known for their dependability and rugged construction.

MTD Products, Inc. of Cleveland, Ohio purchased the Cub Cadet brand from International Harvester in 1981. Cub Cadet was held as a wholly owned subsidiary for many years following this acquisition, which allowed them to operate independently. Recently, MTD has taken a more aggressive role and integrated Cub Cadet into its other lines of power equipment.

This website and forum are not affiliated with or sponsored by MTD Products Inc, which owns the CUB CADET trademarks. It is not an official MTD Products Inc, website, and MTD Products Inc, is not responsible for any of its content. The official MTD Products Inc, website can be found at: http://www.mtdproducts.com. The information and opinions expressed on this website are the responsibility of the website's owner and/or it's members, and do not represent the opinions of MTD Products Inc. IH, INTERNATIONAL HARVESTER are registered trademark of CNH America LLC

All material, images, and graphics from this site are the property of www.onlycubcadets.net. Any unauthorized use, reproductions, or duplications are prohibited unless solely expressed in writing.

Cub Cadet, Cub, Cadet, IH, MTD, Parts, Tractors, Tractor, International Harvester, Lawn, Garden, Lawn Mower, Kohler, garden tractor equipment, lawn garden tractors, antique garden tractors, garden tractor, PTO, parts, online, Original, 70, 71, 72, 73, 76, SO76, 80, 81, 86, 100, 102, 104, 105, 106, 107, 108,109, 122, 123, 124, 125, 126, 127, 128, 129, 147, 149, 169, 182, 282, 382, 482, 580, 582, 582 Special, 680, 682, 782, 782D, 784, 800, 805, 882, 982, 984, 986, 1000, 1015, 1100, 1105, 1110, 1200, 1250, 1282, 1450, 1512, 1604, 1605, 1606, 1610, 1615, 1620, 1650, 1710, 1711, 1712, 1806, 1810, 1811, 1812, 1912, 1914.