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Old 09-07-2013, 02:45 PM
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Built my first electrolysis tank and it seems I failed some where. I attached pictures and will appreciate any help. First, is this the correct detergent? Second, could my negative wire be too thin? Is the charger supposed to show charging? When I plug it in the charge needle vibrates for a second or two and then no movement. I checked the positive circuit for continuity as I was putting it together and it checked ok. I read everything I could find using the search and thought I had a good understanding. Evidently I did not. Thanks for your help.
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Old 09-07-2013, 03:06 PM
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Wrong soap. Washing Soda (Arm & Hammer, for example)

VERY different than laundry stuff.

OH, yea, if the battery charger is fully automatic, you will need a battery in parallel with the charger leads.
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Old 09-07-2013, 03:58 PM
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Washing SODA is what you need. I agree with the auto charger. I use an old, old, Sears charger because my newer and more nifty chargers won't work without a battery to let it "feel" the charge. I was frustrated a couple of years ago trying to de-rust an old plane to restore until I figured out that the "smart" charger was my problem. BTW, I think the negative wire size is fine.
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Old 09-07-2013, 04:09 PM
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The box you have looks similar but it is wrong. You need to look for this stuff. It is at most chain stores in the laundry section.
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Old 09-08-2013, 06:25 AM
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I found that "drain cleaner with lye", seemed to work better. True value hardware.

I like your tank!

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Yeah, I thought the tank was cool too. I always cobble something together and it looks worse than the item I'm trying to restore. I swear that the "next time" I'll make a better tank. Course, there's always the next time!
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Old 09-08-2013, 02:38 PM
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Default Help with Electrolysis

Thanks for all your help. Think I can get an old charger that is not automatic. Will get the correct arm and Hammer Soda. Are there any fumes or other dangers from using the Lye? Going to give it another shot this week.
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Old 09-08-2013, 03:11 PM
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I agree with the battery charger thing...

I bought a new one off the net a few years ago when I built mine, it wasn't very expensive (about $35.00 delivered) it is not automatic, Schumacher is the brand name and it works very well.

Instead of washing soda, I used Trisodium phosphate (TSP) I believe you can get it at the walmart or any paint store.

I really like the idea of using lye as Nik mentioned, some day I may add some to my solution.

You also need to clean your consumables often. I use 8 big old lawnmower blades and have to take them out and pressure wash them every day because they get loaded with crud and stop working (slow down is probably more accurate). The "crud" gets really thick on them, 3/16to a 1/4".

Good luck with your project, if you plan your project and use your tank wisely an electrolysis tank can be a great asset to restoration work.
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You also need to clean your consumables often. I use 8 big old lawnmower blades and have to take them out and pressure wash them every day because they get loaded with crud and stop working (slow down is probably more accurate). The "crud" gets really thick on them, 3/16 to a 1/4".
Well, I wonder about sticking an old chunk of steel in the tank, and reversing the connections.

That ought to clean the crud off the anodes.

If that doesn't work I could use a horse for the anode, and to clean it!!
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Well, I wonder about sticking an old chunk of steel in the tank, and reversing the connections.

That ought to clean the crud off the anodes.

If that doesn't work I could use a horse for the anode, and to clean it!!
and no doubt has done so with very good results
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