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Old 02-19-2018, 08:05 AM
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Yeah.... but if you tear them off one motor, but need some for the next one, you ruined good ones. I save the ones I don't use in case I need them on the next job.
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I don't do enough engines to know if I will ever need the shims that could be saved, and if I do another I'll get more shims in the rebuild kit. I doubt that Mr. Bob is, at this point is concerned about his "next rebuild" and I am merely suggesting something that maybe will help him get this one done.
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Old 02-19-2018, 10:51 AM
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Unless you used a sealant between the gaskets, how did you tear them anyway? They shouldn't have stuck together and torn.....
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No sealant, I should have indicated that. Anyways, you can use a thin xacto knife to get a separation started between the shims. Then when you get one separated from the others all the way around just remove it. My suggestion is not meant to tell everyone with alot of experience how to do things, in time everyone develops their own techniques. I'm just trying to help Mr. Bob.
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Sorry, I should have been more clear, my last question was for the OP.... but, I agree ironman, no sealant. That is where I was going with it also.
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I didn't use sealant with the gaskets. Book called for 35 foot pounds torque on the back plate bolts. I had only torqued to 25 foot pounds and was afraid any more would break the bolts. Went back upstairs and looked at the service manual and saw inch pounds. Thought I had really over torqued them. I knew that the inch pounds were for engines other than the 149. I guess I just had another senior moment. Why I had the manual upstairs and not down stairs is another senior moment. When you are old, you always have something to blame it on. It really pressed the gaskets to the engine and when I was removing the back plate It tore the gaskets up. I was not paying close enough attention. When I did look at the gaskets, they were torn in half. New gaskets are on order and hopefully will be here by Friday. Have a great day.
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MrBob, I had the same feeling first time I torqued a bearing plate. I think it has something to do with the aluminum plate compressing making me think the bolts were yielding. I pulled them all out and replaced them with new grade 8 bolts. Then, with less fear of breaking a bolt, it was easier to torque them down as required.

I have to say, installing the bearing plate is probably the fussiest part of putting one of these back together. Once you get that done, it's all downhill from there.

Well, valve spring keepers are touchy---some grease on a screwdriver allows you to "stick" a keeper half to the end of the screwdriver and place it on the valve stem.

I don't have a really good valve spring compressor, and I often struggle with them. I need to upgrade mine.

Keep at it. Pics are always welcomed here!
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Good work Mr B!

This is not the "Only Professional Cub Cadet Mechanics" forum, so we all learn from one another. I really appreciate you taking the time to document your build with the rest of us mere amateurs!

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