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Old 06-06-2013, 11:33 AM
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Default Cadet Paint PPG Formulas

I need some help here, My best friend and som time vineyard worker owns a Auto paint store and sells Matrix paint. It is a Urethane enamel and works really well - how ever we can't get a good formula for Cadet White & yellow. Matrix formulas are compatiable with PPG.

Does any one have the pigment formulas for the Cadet paints from an old PPG mixing system. They also don't have Woods Orange or that really horrid LandPride color formulas either - seriously I am not even sure why we are still friends.
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Old 06-06-2013, 11:51 AM
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Did you look here.........??.. Paint
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Old 06-06-2013, 01:22 PM
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Roland, Yes I did - the problem is Matrix does not have those codes - so no formula. Anybody that has a PPG mixing system would have the older equipment paint codes AND the Tint formulas to mix them. The formulas give you the amount of diffrent color tints and binders to make that partiqular color code. So even though Matrix does not have the Paint code - with a PPG formula we could cross reference the tints and make the color. I have experience with the Dupont system so I know how it is all supposed to work, "If I can get my hand on those formulas" - I know that sounds like a quote from an Evil Genius - but trust me I am neither!
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Old 06-06-2013, 04:47 PM
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It would be nice to have the codes for the cyclops and 3000 series also if anyone has them.
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Old 06-08-2013, 07:48 PM
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+1 on the epoxy primer, it's well worth the extra $ for the adhesion and protection. If you're set on BC/CC you may check on going with a higher grade of basecoat if it's available. Yellow tends to be a little more transparent than most and it may take you 3-5 coats to cover what would hide in 2-3 with a better quality base. I spray PPG because that's what my supplier sells. Lately I've been using Deltron base for better hiding with the Omni clear. Sometimes it comes out cheaper because you actually use less paint. I was doing the yellow on my 102 with MTK urethane single stage so I can't help with the formula for the base, but I might be able to get it from my supplier.
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OOPS! I had 2 paint threads open at once and my mind ran everything together!! Here's the formula with the cumulative totals (CUM) for 1 gallon of PPG's MTK urethane single stage in 81518 Federal Yellow per the sticker on the can:
M113 Yellow- 1815.2 (CUM 1815.2); MX195 Accelerator- 77.7 (CUM 1892.9); M130 Orange- 32.9 (CUM 1925.8); M117 Jet Black- 6.0 (CUM 1931.8) and M149 Clear- 2950.3 (CUM 4882.1).
Hope that helps! Happy painting.
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Old 06-12-2013, 11:14 AM
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Hi Mad,

Thanks that will help. I painted - well wire wheeled, welded and replaced the center spindle bearings on the mower and THEN painted the mower deck this weekend. We found a matrix color Cool Vanilla that is a good match for the white - plus it is a VW color and I am a VW guy. Next up when the rain stops is to get the hood painted. Since this is a working tractor I am trying to clean it up & keep it working. I am not sure if it is charging so if the Gen/Starter has to come off it will go back on with a fresh coat of paint. One thing a buddy of mine used to do is tint his primer to what ever color he was spraying.
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