Glow plug upgrade..Solenoid problems?

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by Dart1917

I think J-mech is talking about a relay placed in the circuit between the ignition switch and the starter solenoid. The ignition switch would power the relay which in turn would power the solenoid. I've never seen this type of setup but I'm guessing he has. Such a relay would only have to handle the current draw of the starter solenoid coil, not the starter load.

This type of set up is common on diesel engines because of the size of the starters. Ford used it, so did Dodge on the early 90's diesels. Very common in heavy duty set ups, especially where 12v is used on the chassis, but 24v is used for starting.

Yes solenoid and relay are kind of mixed terms. As all have agreed, as long as the part is rated at the given amp load, there is no issues.

[V30crewcab]

but everyone knows what a ford solenoid, or ford relay is, the fender mounted one that you will get when you ask for one at any parts store.
you probably don't have any channelock pliers either, just arc joint pliers eh?
spitting hairs for no reason. its a mower forum not a nasa think tank.

[ol'George]

Originally Posted by V30crewcab

but everyone knows what a ford solenoid, or ford relay is, the fender mounted one that you will get when you ask for one at any parts store.
you probably don't have any channelock pliers either, just arc joint pliers eh?
spitting hairs for no reason. its a mower forum not a nasa think tank.

Actually,
they are called "water pump pliers"
Channellock is a brand name Ha,LOL!
Now I'm going to the "Frigidaire" to get a soda pop.

[J-Mech]

Originally Posted by V30crewcab

but everyone knows what a ford solenoid, or ford relay is, the fender mounted one that you will get when you ask for one at any parts store.
you probably don't have any channelock pliers either, just arc joint pliers eh?
spitting hairs for no reason. its a mower forum not a nasa think tank.

The guys at most part stores couldn't walk to the back and get any part that you named off. I've had guys at the part store try to tell me there is no difference between a solenoid and a constant duty relay. "They look the same" they say. SO...... not EVERYONE knows the difference. When dealing with people who really DON'T know the difference, it's important to make sure they know there is a difference.

Like George said, Channel Lock is a brand name. But thanks for logging your bitch, and offering no help whatsoever.

[R Bedell]

I think J-mech is talking about a relay placed in the circuit between the ignition switch and the starter solenoid. The ignition switch would power the relay which in turn would power the solenoid. I've never seen this type of setup but I'm guessing he has. Such a relay would only have to handle the current draw of the starter solenoid coil, not the starter load.

The original poster is talking about a 1772. The 1772 does NOT have a Starter Relay.

Further, there is a distinct difference between a Solenoid, and a Relay. Granted, some people may intermix the terminology, none the less, they are different.

With regards to relays, there are many types. As far as duty usage, it comes down to two basic camps, (A) Intermittent Duty, and (B) Continuous Duty.

[V30crewcab]

BWD - Starter Solenoid

Part #
S5047
use this, problems solved.
If your parts guy can't find one of these, he needs to go back to bagging groceries.