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Old 07-12-2017, 07:45 AM
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Default Cub Cadet 2140 Turning Radius

I have a 1996 2140 ( I know its has the piece of crap AGS system and yes I know its not a hydro). Just had to get that out of the way.

So I inherited this tractor from my grandpa, and not sure if something was messed with in the past. I have noticed some abnormal wear on the front tires. So I think there is a bit of an alignment issue. Are there any other adjustments besides the tire rod ends?

Lastly, there is a major difference if I am turning right versus left. Turning right is a very nice tight turn, but turning left it is about half of the radius turning. Which I think is also contributing to the wear on the original front tires.

So, a recap of my questions:

1. Alignment - any other adjustments besides the tie rod ends? I can't see any.
2. Can anything be done about the turning radius and matching them or is this a design/engineer issue?
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Old 07-12-2017, 11:34 AM
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Click here, read pages 6-2 & 6-3....

http://service.mtdproducts.com/Train...Adjusments.pdf

these may help too...

http://service.mtdproducts.com/Train...g_assembly.pdf
http://service.mtdproducts.com/Train...onnections.pdf
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Thanks iron man, I feel like maybe that steering pinon gear isn't centered on the Steering Segment Gear by looking at that picture.


Call me crazy, but shouldn't a tractor turn the same rate whether its left or right?
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You want it to turn sharper to the non-discharge side of the mowing deck.
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You want it to turn sharper to the non-discharge side of the mowing deck.

HA, its doing the opposite. go....figure
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Thanks iron man, I feel like maybe that steering pinon gear isn't centered on the Steering Segment Gear by looking at that picture.


Call me crazy, but shouldn't a tractor turn the same rate whether its left or right?
It has something to do with part #2, the lower steering arm not being positioned correctly. With the steering pinion gear centered on the steering segment gear the lower steering arm should be perpendicular to the frame. If it's not you have to take it apart and re-position it.

Read paragraph 6-6 in the first link I gave you.
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It has something to do with part #2, the lower steering arm not being positioned correctly. With the steering pinion gear centered on the steering segment gear the lower steering arm should be perpendicular to the frame. If it's not you have to take it apart and re-position it.

Read paragraph 6-6 in the first link I gave you.
Thanks again Ironman, I will get under it tonight and take a look. I replaced the tie rods a few years ago, marked the old positions and put them back in place, but wondering now if I put the rods back in the inside holes versus the outside holes. Will check that too.
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Well, sure enough, turns out in my hast a year ago, I put the left tie rod in the inner hole and the right in the outer hole. They are now both in the outer holes and it is back to normal.

Man, I kind of hate myself right now...
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Well, sure enough, turns out in my hast a year ago, I put the left tie rod in the inner hole and the right in the outer hole. They are now both in the outer holes and it is back to normal.

Man, I kind of hate myself right now...
Don't! We've all done stupid things. Just be glad it was an easy fix instead of having it be something more complicated that required the all mighty $$$
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Don't! We've all done stupid things. Just be glad it was an easy fix instead of having it be something more complicated that required the all mighty $$$
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