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Old 02-03-2016, 06:14 PM
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I'm thinking farmers are looking for more bang for their buck so they no-till and blast it with chemicals. (I don't mean anything bad about that.)

My wife and I are trying to get away from all that crap and GMO's so I use no chemicals in my garden and I'm trying to switch back to heirloom seeds. We have also gone just about 100% organic at the grocery store also.

I have plowed and tilled my garden for 15 years and I can say there are about 0 earthworms left from doing this. Cadplans has a nice looking garden and he doesn't plow or till IIRC.

I do it because I enjoy working in the garden but every year about June, when I get busy at work, the weeds takeover and I just want to bush hog the whole thing.
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Unless you plan on using Round-Up ready sweetcorn in your garden, your going to need to till. If you decide to go no-till in the garden, your going to need a lot of mulch or something similar to control weeds. After all I've done and seen, I will plow my garden every year. In the spring or in the fall really doesn't seem to matter. Then I will till and plant. This leaves the soil soft so my cultivator will go in. I have too big of a garden to be able to weed by hand (hoe). If you have a small garden, can mulch or cover the soil, then it may work for you. The neat thing is, it's trial and error. It may work for you. It may not. I'm convinced about what I've seen, and I'll keep my plow, tiller, and cultivators.
I've tried the no till in part of my garden. More work than it worth to me. I still had weeds when I mulch. Back to doing the same thing J-Mech does.
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Well I pay about $2.50/pound for grass seed so maybe about the same, $150?
Not even close......The cheap stuff doesn't go for that price.
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Not even close......The cheap stuff doesn't go for that price.
But if he is selling certified corn seed for that price - I'll order from him!!! No such luck eh? Only wish the good stuff was that price!
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Here's a hint: It topped $200/bag in 2012. (On average. The "elite" stuff went over $200/bag before that.)
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But if he is selling certified corn seed for that price - I'll order from him!!! No such luck eh? Only wish the good stuff was that price!
Me too.....................
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I wonder sometimes if certain plants (crops) do better in no-till than others? Having said that, not certain how vegetables in particular would do. I'm thinking snap beans, butter beans and peas would do OK since soybeans usually do well. I think it would be easy enough to try, just kill a spot of ground with weed-killer of your choice, poke a hole with a soil trowel, drop some seed in and firm it back tight with your foot. One of the key things with no-till is not to plant wet, you get sidewall compaction. Also, you need seed to soil contact, not just some dirt over the top of the seed--no air pockets. I plan on no-tilling my corn this year. I've had good luck the previous 3 years of tilling the soil in front of it. Actually, I only plan on no-tilling about 1/2 of it, the rest will have to have the ground harrowed to get it level. Personally, I think it is cheaper to no-till, not near as many trips over the field. Light tillage only creates a compaction zone. You have to deep till to fix that.
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I know the thread is a little old, but just read it for the first time.
A lot of the farmers here are going the no till route, or very little of it. Some of the old timers with smaller acreage, my uncle included still does it the "old fashion" way. Plow, disc three ways then drag, seed and roll.
I do understand no till and a lot of chemical is the fastest way. But all the chemical does come at a cost. Since we stopped farming 10-12 years ago, and started renting to the "big" farmer down the road, there has been a bunch of changes.
Near and around our pond there used to be frogs, crickets, whippoorwills, lightning bugs and meadowlarks. Now with the farming practices being used here, they are no longer around.
Used to lay in bed at night and listen to the sounds of nature till we fell to sleep, now it's jake breaks slowing down for the round about here in the middle of the country, or those inconsiderate motorcycles that have to gas on their strait pipes coming out of the round about...
Where you used to leave the window open to listen to the outdoors, now you have to close them to keep the outdoors out.
Guess what I'm saying is everything must change, but not all is for the best.
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I'm actually about to till in compost and maybe manure. But I am going to be farming on very poor fill dirt. We will actually till it then water then rake the debris away. Wait for weeds to sprout, kill them, till, water, rake, repeat. When no more debris comes to the top I will till In compost. After the farm gets going I won't have to till as much, because it brings new weeds to the surface. I will prolly get a tilther for between planting soil amending. Trying to do organic no chemicals here. We're are in a peri urban area and I don't know how I will manage pests, time will tell how this all works out. Wish me luck! First time using tiller on my 123 this weekend
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