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04-28-2010, 12:39 PM
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Acceptable substitute for Hytran
I'm in a bind, drained my diff, replaced gasket between diff & hydro. Ordered hytran over 2 weeks ago, haven't recieved it & need the tractor. All of the local Tractor Supply's are out, no local dealer. Nearest dealer over 100 miles away.
Any acceptable sub for Hytran? 
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04-29-2010, 10:12 AM
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Fishman:NO!
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04-29-2010, 11:38 AM
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I put a zip code in for a clarksville and came up with two places.
ELITE POWER EQUIPMENT 800 MEMORIAL BLVD. SPRINGFIELD TN 37172 Phone: (615) 384-4581 21 miles Directions ARCHIES TV & APPLIANCES 13 COURT SQUARE ERIN TN 37061 Phone: (931) 289-4125 27.8 miles Directions
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04-29-2010, 03:15 PM
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Found a Case IH dealer about 30 miles from me in Hopkinsville, KY. Wife is on a parts run now. Picking up a 5 gal bucket for $58.65 + tax. Guess I should have searched in Ky sooner!!!
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04-30-2010, 07:55 PM
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arent these sunstrands trans ? are they the same in a JD? if so why not use the same fluid?
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04-30-2010, 08:33 PM
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It will work just fine,but some will argue that I.H. oil is better,of course the folks on the J.D. forums will argue their oil is better.
But the last time I talked to my sunstrand unit,  it said it actually liked both equally well and even stated it likes type "F" ATF.Hy-Gard™ Hydraulic/Transmission Oil Applications – Hy-Gard hydraulic/transmission oil provides the best performance and wear protection for John Deere hydraulic and transmission systems. – Recommended for equipment with either common system reservoirs or separate transmission and hydraulic systems, including those with wet brakes and wet clutches. Service Ratings AGCO Massey Ferguson: M1135, M-1141, M1139, M-1143 White: MQ-1722, Q1766, Q-1766B, Q-1802, Q-1826 Allis-Chalmers, Deutz-Allis, AGCO Allis: Power Fluid 821XL CNH Case, Case-IH: MS-1207, MS-1209, MS-1210, MS-1 Ford/New Holland: ESN-M2C41-B, M2C134-D, M2C48-B, M2C48-C, M2C159-B/C, 159B/C, M2C86-B, FNHA-2-C-200, FNHA-2-C-201 Caterpillar: TO-2 Clark: MS68 Deutz: Hydraulic transmission fluid Dresser: Transmission hydraulic fluid (HMS B806-0002) Eaton Hydraulic Division: Hydraulic transmission (Form3-401-123) IHC: B-6 John Deere: All-weather hydraulic fluid (JDM J21A) Kubota: UDT hydraulic transmission fluid, Super UDT Oliver: Type 55 Sunstrand: Hydrostatic transmission Zetor: OT-H, GL-4 ZF: TE-ML03E, 06D, 06E Test Analysis Viscosity @ 40°C................... 59 cSt Viscosity @ 100°C................. 9.4 cSt Viscosity index.................. 140 Density............................. 0.89 g/cm3 Pour point......................... -40°C Flash point......................... 227°C Features – Formulated with friction modifiers that provide smooth clutch engagement and high braking capacity with minimum chatter. – Formulated with a viscosity improver additive to ensure correct viscosity at all temperatures; this additive is not found in many competitive oils, yet is critical to equipment performance and component protection. – Hy-Gard oil has a viscosity between the ISO grades of 46 and 68 @ 40°C. – Exceeds JDM J2OC specification. Some competitive oils may meet these minimum J20 specifications, but none meet the performance requirements placed on Hy-Gard oil. Size/part number for U.S. 1 gal. ............................ TY6354 2-1/2 gal. ..................... TY22062 5 gal. .............................AR69444 30 gal............................ TY6238 55 gal. ............................AR69445 220 gal. .........................TY22092 Size/part number for Canada 10 L ............................... TY6349 20 L ............................... TY6283 125 L .............................. TY22090 205 L .............................. TY6267
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04-30-2010, 09:16 PM
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Hmm
What are the moisture capture properties of the JD stuff? Don't see that listed in your post. I think that's one of the biggest reasons to use Hy-Tran Ultra. Correct?
I'll be picking up some Hy-Tran Ultra tomorrow for my hydro oil change, hopefully this weekend.
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05-01-2010, 07:23 AM
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Thanks all, picked up a 5 gal bucket Thurs, filled the diff & changed the filter on the 149 that has sat for years. Installed drive shaft, jacked it up and started engine. All was well, lift works well with no leaks, neutral was slightly out. Adjusted that, now can't do anything unless I want to run it in the rain.
One relief valve leaking from the release button, any way to fix that, or just replace it? 
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05-10-2010, 11:06 PM
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 Hy-Tran Ultra has the unique ability to hold up to 1% of its volume in water and not experience any harmful effects like additive fallout; typical tractor fluids experience problems at 0.5% or less Thats about 2.2 ounces of water vs 1.1 for the competitor for 7 quarts(232 onces) of fluid Question How hot do our hydros get?
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