Hydro issue

[Daniel_110]

Hello all, im hoping you all can help me, after a year and a half we just started my boys 149, after running it about an hour to break the engine in my son started driving it around, after about 5 minutes it stopped moving, we checked the fluid and it was down a quart, we added a quart of Amalie ultra trac 245, it has a brand new cub cadet filter, so im not sure whats up. Is this fluid ok? I do not have any history with this rear because we got it from a friend, we have a pull to go to on sunday so worse case.we will put old rear on but that rear had the hydro lift ports on it and the deck used to creep down so thats why we swapped, let me know your thoughts? My boy is counting on your professional input🖒

[olds45512]

Pull the tunnel cover and make sure the input shaft on the pump is turning with the driveshaft, it could have a broken pin. Pulling with a hydro is a bad idea.

[Jeff in Pa]

Originally Posted by olds45512

Pull the tunnel cover and make sure the input shaft on the pump is turning with the driveshaft, it could have a broken pin. ..............

You have a drive hub bolted to the engine and a 1/4" x 1-1/2" SOLID pin in the driveshaft. At the rear, there is a spirol pin in the rear coupler.

[drglinski]

Ayup, first problem with a hydro not moving typically is a non spinning driveshaft.

[zippy1]

Originally Posted by Daniel_110

Hello all, im hoping you all can help me, after a year and a half we just started my boys 149, after running it about an hour to break the engine in my son started driving it around, after about 5 minutes it stopped moving, we checked the fluid and it was down a quart, we added a quart of Amalie ultra trac 245, it has a brand new cub cadet filter, so im not sure whats up. Is this fluid ok? I do not have any history with this rear because we got it from a friend, we have a pull to go to on sunday so worse case.we will put old rear on but that rear had the hydro lift ports on it and the deck used to creep down so thats why we swapped, let me know your thoughts? My boy is counting on your professional input��

Here you go.
Amalie ultra trac 245
An all-purpose tractor hydraulic fluid blended from carefully selected base stocks and compounded with extreme pressure, anti-foam, and anti-wear, rust and corrosion inhibitors and pour point depressant additives, All-Trac 245 is specifically designed to lubricate the common sump hydraulic-transmission-final drive systems in many farm tractors marketed today.

All-Trac 245 is also recommended for use in hydraulic applications calling for SAE 10W or 20 product. All-Trac 245 may be recommended as a replacement fluid in field service applications calling for the following manufacturers' specifications and/or products:
• John Deere J20C, J20 A/B, J14 B/C, J21A, JDT 303, Quatrol®, Hygard • Kubota UDT and Super UDT • Komatsu • Leyland • Allison C-4 • Massey-Ferguson M-1141, M-1135, M-1129A, M-1127 A/B, M 1110, Perma Tran III • Ford-New Holland • Caterpillar TO-2 • AGCO (Allis, Allis-Chalmers, Minneapolis Moline, Oliver, White and New Idea) • Denison HF-2 • J.I. Case, including International Harvester, Stieger, David Brown • Vickers • TCH fluid, Hy-Tran, Power Guard PTF

[Daniel_110]

I'm not sure why I never saw these replies but thank you for the input, If the tractor sat for a bit at idle it would move again so that ruled out the driveshaft, we ended up swapping the rear out and made the pull, he made the first pass with 750 lbs but the 2nd run he got 13 inches and she just sat there, plenty of motor, ran out of Hydro, we trucked it home and started pulling the rear, I already found a standard, now im sourcing the clutch parts before he steals them off my 128, ( hes been eyeballing it a lot lately.) This club is the only one around and its a stone boat pulling club, were only aloud to fill the tires or wheel weights but not both, we can run a deck but no external weights besides the wheels, Watching the other pullers i noticed a couple things like decks bottoming out or wheelie bars hitting the ground and that would be it, especially when the track got soft ( tore up ). this type of pull really puts the cubs at a disadvantage because they are so light in comparison to some of the other tractors, rear engine mounted tractors seem to dominate. Any advice would be helpful, I am definitely done with the hydro though.