Rotary Tiller Model #1 project - Page 9

ajgross · #81 01-13-2012, 08:47 AM

Chris I included a nice set of the brackets in your last pic with your gift basket.

AJ

Sugarmaker · #82 01-13-2012, 05:50 PM

AJ, Thanks! Looks like I will have a few spare tiller parts also.
Appreciate you jumping in and helping out with some parts that you were not going to use!
Allen, Thanks! Can always count on a good word from you! It helps believe me! At some point about 80% of the tear down you wonder if your doing the right thing! Support is great from all you folks! I think wht I am finding is that there are not that many folks that have torn these tillers all the way down? That may be a good sign meaning that they are bullet proof for the most part and with some care they will last a long time too!

I did shop for hardware today and picked up about $60.00 worth of stainless nuts, bolts and washers. Also got a sheet of gasket material for the case gasket to be made out of too.
Starting to turn the corner on this project! I like putting clean painted parts together with new hardware! Yea the stainless is a lot of overkill. But these may get hauled around to a show for a season. So the implements will get a little bling.
Still need to find the gear box and bracket for the back of the tractor. I may call my cub guy in Ohio He may have found one?
Regards,
Chris

nra1ifer · #83 01-14-2012, 12:16 AM

I'm glad to see your progress on this tiller rebuild. I have one that is just about completely torn down, and I agree with you: not for the the faint of heart! I have two bearing sleeves that are grown on to the tine shaft. Once I get those loose, I'll be ready to start putting mine back together.

I'll watch this thread and be sure to ask questions if I run into problems.

Sugarmaker · #84 01-14-2012, 06:21 PM

nra1ifer,
I smiled when I read your post. I have the same inner bearing races still grown on the main drive shaft. I will wait till I get the parts from AJ and see what I need to do to get started with the re assembly work. Most of the effort will go into the work in the case. I want that to be as new, fresh and robust as possible. That's where all the action is happening. I did price these new bearings from a local Cub dealer and they were going to be a lot of money.

I may try to save that drive shaft (even as a spare) that I have by heating, cutting, and removing the rusted on inner races.

Nice to know someone else is into these too. Your welcome to comment/ suggest things I might do to improve. If you have some pictures post them here or better yet start a thread.
Regards,
Chris

Sugarmaker · #85 01-14-2012, 09:29 PM

nra1ifer,
Does your drive shaft look about like this? Also notice the next shaft up has one grown on it too. I think I could save them if I had to. How were you planning to get these inner races off? The gear teeth look great on all 4 gears. I did note that the upper chain is #40 and the lower on is next size bigger chain. Not sure what number chain that would be?
Going to wait till I get my box of goodies from AJ Gross and then decide if I need to work on this pair of shafts and stuck bearing races?
Also a shot of the electrolysis tank still working away behind the garage even with the 12 inches of new snow. I am down to cleaning the bearing retainer plates. I may put the tine assemblies in the tank to clean them up too?
Regards,
Chris

EricR · #86 01-14-2012, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sugarmaker

even with the 12 inches of new snow.

That's not fair, I have been here in the middle of the state waiting all winter to get some seat time on the 2086 and blower and only a few ground coverings to show for it.

. LOL.

Nice continuation on the tiller Chris.

Methos · #87 01-14-2012, 11:42 PM

Chris, sweet update! No need to put the tines in the tank. Once they hit the dirt they will shine right up! No need to sharpen them either.

johncub7172 · #88 01-15-2012, 02:22 AM

Well, I think I'll restore everything, but not the case. Yes, I'am working hard on IHCC stuff here in this land! You are doing a awesome job at your #1 tiller restore. A great contribution and help for us who have this tiller can now be found at Only Cub Cadets, thanks to you!

The sheet metal is looking wonderful! I agree, it is very rewarding to assemble a dirt machine having put in the grunt work. When my 72 becomes restored, my #1 is next on the bucket list. I happen to have got the whole she-bang for 125. from OCC member Ryan last spring. I will keep a eye out for the 90* gear box. They are out there.

And, alot of times its best to walk away for a period of time from the projects. Helps to stay focused. Again, nice job and keep up the good work!

Sugarmaker · #89 01-15-2012, 10:50 AM

John,
Thanks, appreciate the comments! I always hope these words and pictures can help some one else in the hobby too. I have enjoyed the pictures of other members and it gives me the incentive to tackle some of these projects that I am not as familiar with.
You got a good deal on all the tiller items!
If I can help on your restoration let me know.
I assume you have used the tiller already and verified it works OK?
If not:
Just a warning! Make sure those big bottom bearings are real good. After removing the dust caps I found mine were junk! Some of the ball bearings were actually missing! Must have gotten chewed up? Glad I took it apart,but it was a challenge! The tiller would not have preformed well at all with those old bearings. Might have looked good but not ran well. My gear box rolled over but very stiff. Now I see why, lack of lubrication and rusted/ impacted dirt filled bearings.

N.E Ohio! What town you located in? I am about 15 miles from the Ohio line.

My goal would be to use this tiller to put in a bigger garden in the next few years and try to keep the weeds down plus get some more seat time too. I have a 102 with creeper that may be the tractor that this goes on. But that's another project. It does not have a upper lift arm and would need spring assist. And could use a complete restoration runs good but has its work cloths on. Humm, I think I better stop now or will talk myself into another years worth of projects

Regards,
Chris

johncub7172 · #90 01-15-2012, 02:22 PM

Chris,

I have not yet used my tiller. It has taken me some time and research just to acknowledge all the items and requirements of the #1. So that told me that I needed a tractor first off. And then of course that tractor had to meet the requirements of the tiller which has led me to a restore and some big up-grades on my stock model 72. Thats where I'am at a year later on my tiller.

My tines are 1/2 wore out. Not a huge amount of rust all over it. I will take heed and inspect those bearings. Seems no play on the tiller axel and operates by hand with no noise. Guess we'll see! To be honest, I have no idea as to how to assemble all the tiller components and have it work like a charm. I did find a paper manual from http://www.binderbooks.com part # 1019919 IH #1 Tiller Manual for $11.95 and figure to have that immediately. Shipping is 6.95 last I checked.

I live in Geauga County, about 40 miles from the PA border. I plan to be in Westmiddlesex jan 28 for the breakfast and cub talk meeting.

Hope the 102 works out, and it sounds like it will. It is a great tractor! My goal is to ride the tractor and have a operational #1 tiller. All my garden beds are permanent so the tilling should be easy with 1/2 wore out tines. I priced tines at $11.00 each at Patton Acres, so I'am using the original tines for now.