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Old 07-16-2017, 08:50 PM
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Nice M Farmall John!

I've seen Dad rebuild quite a few of those old John Blue pumps.. He worked for a Farm supply dealer in the 60's 70's and 80's that had a bunch of those old ground drive pumps running.. he had a test stand and knew just how to set them up... good pumps!

Send us some pics of the framework under your cub sprayer tank... id like to see how you supported it.. I'm guessing you have some angle braces back toward the bottom of the rear axle? Just curious.. now that Ive seen this you have motivated me.. I have several cubs sitting around doing nothing!
John Blue made some excellent equipment, as far as I know they still do, just a little more high tech. Actually lots of the trailer type ground drive pumps in service here every spring for putting out nitrogen.

Back on topic, the frame is just 2" angle bolted on the outside of the Cadets chassis. I used one existing hole at the rear, had to drill one hole about in line with where the pump bolts to the trans. PLENTY of room to put this stuff on. I used bolts through the plywood into the "nuts" molded into the tank. Had to be real careful I didn't get too long of bolts. The tank has a groove molded in it for using straps, I may eventually add some plumbers strapping to help secure it. Currently still using the original battery clamps, may switch over to a trailer style plug in. Even thought about running wires to the PTO switch for an off and on, don't know if the fuse is heavy enough? Like I said earlier, nothing fancy here, this was for working and I needed it in a hurry. I mounted the tank about an inch from the fenders to keep the front end from getting very light.
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Old 07-16-2017, 09:17 PM
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John Blue made some excellent equipment, as far as I know they still do, just a little more high tech. Actually lots of the trailer type ground drive pumps in service here every spring for putting out nitrogen.

Back on topic, the frame is just 2" angle bolted on the outside of the Cadets chassis. I used one existing hole at the rear, had to drill one hole about in line with where the pump bolts to the trans. PLENTY of room to put this stuff on. I used bolts through the plywood into the "nuts" molded into the tank. Had to be real careful I didn't get too long of bolts. The tank has a groove molded in it for using straps, I may eventually add some plumbers strapping to help secure it. Currently still using the original battery clamps, may switch over to a trailer style plug in. Even thought about running wires to the PTO switch for an off and on, don't know if the fuse is heavy enough? Like I said earlier, nothing fancy here, this was for working and I needed it in a hurry. I mounted the tank about an inch from the fenders to keep the front end from getting very light.
Ok I see how you did it... very simple yet effective!
I have a tow behind sprayer rigged up on a Gravely.. SHHHH Best thing I ever did is make a quick connect harness with a push pull switch on the dash... easy to cut the spray off and on when turning around!
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Old 07-17-2017, 12:30 AM
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Looks like it'll do well for ya John.
I've got myself a tank sprayer on my ATV. Mounted the tank on the front with the two nozzle boom outback.
I wanted the tank up front so I could see the amount left in the tank, and be able to open or close the valve, to change from wand to boom spray. I can't turn and look tight behind anymore, so this worked best.
I use it mainly for "trimming" around the house, and food plots.
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Doing some tidying up on the 782 sprayer. Driveshaft and all components except the fan were junk. Ordered new rag joints, lock nuts, spirol pins, and some 4140ph to make a shaft out of--(bought enough for 2 future mahines). No big deal to making the shaft, just drill 3 holes. The piece that goes on the pump needed help. The cast iron was wallered (technical term) out pretty bad. The pump shaft wasn't the worst, but showed damage. As best as I could mike it with the port lines in place, it was only worn down and tapered a small amount, makes sense because I would imagine the pump shaft is hardenend or case hardenend anyway. Regardless, it was well enough to leave alone. I took the part that goes on the pump shaft and bored it out for a custom bushing. Also, one of the hles for the spiral pin must have been .015 oversize--the shaft was whipping pretty good. So instead of picking up the existing holes I opted to install a new one, just bored it all the way with a carbide end mill. Spirol pin fits nice and tight now.
For my records, I made me a print for the shaft--and labeled it 1811. Wasn't till yesterday that I realized that was the last machine I made a shaft for, I had forgotten about it till I stumbled onto the old shaft.
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Doing some tidying up on the 782 sprayer. Driveshaft and all components except the fan were junk. Ordered new rag joints, lock nuts, spirol pins, and some 4140ph to make a shaft out of--(bought enough for 2 future mahines). No big deal to making the shaft, just drill 3 holes. The piece that goes on the pump needed help. The cast iron was wallered (technical term) out pretty bad. The pump shaft wasn't the worst, but showed damage. As best as I could mike it with the port lines in place, it was only worn down and tapered a small amount, makes sense because I would imagine the pump shaft is hardenend or case hardenend anyway. Regardless, it was well enough to leave alone. I took the part that goes on the pump shaft and bored it out for a custom bushing. Also, one of the hles for the spiral pin must have been .015 oversize--the shaft was whipping pretty good. So instead of picking up the existing holes I opted to install a new one, just bored it all the way with a carbide end mill. Spirol pin fits nice and tight now.
For my records, I made me a print for the shaft--and labeled it 1811. Wasn't till yesterday that I realized that was the last machine I made a shaft for, I had forgotten about it till I stumbled onto the old shaft.
Nicely done!
Did you chose the angle to drill the new hole based on shaft rotation direction?Seems like it would make a difference which direction the load was being applied to the hole on, and it'd be better to drill it in a direction that left it more "meat" to push against.
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Old 12-31-2017, 02:21 PM
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Nicely done!
Did you chose the angle to drill the new hole based on shaft rotation direction?Seems like it would make a difference which direction the load was being applied to the hole on, and it'd be better to drill it in a direction that left it more "meat" to push against.
I actually thought about that AFTER I had put the hole in. Oh well, don't think it will bother anything, especially for the life this machine will be leading. I'm using longer pins anyway, because that's what McMaster had. Time will tell.
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Well fix John

Look like your having all the fun with your big boy tools.
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Old 12-31-2017, 02:58 PM
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nice little tractor. shame they painted over the red. looking for one of those in red for myself. maybe one day.
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John,

Looks good! And i think it will work just fine especially with the intended use.. But if not Jeff in PA makes a really nice coupler that fits deeper on the pump shaft and has set screws along with the spirol pin.. the set screws do a really nice job of stabilizing the coupler if your pump shaft has any wear at all.
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I think the force on the offset hole may cause problems, why do you think they put it where it was instead of where it is now?
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