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Old 03-29-2014, 09:21 PM
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OUCH Jeff!!
Looks like maybe the front bearing seized and broke the crank? Or did you feed a tree into it? LOL!
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Old 03-29-2014, 09:32 PM
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OUCH Jeff!!
Looks like maybe the front bearing seized and broke the crank? Or did you feed a tree into it? LOL!
Seized is an understatement. I was chipping small branches, all under 3/4" of an inch and it broke while I was getting another handful to chip.

All of a sudden it stopped running and the belt screeched like mad as the flailing hammer drum stopped. I pulled the recoil starter but it wouldn't move. Then I noticed the starter was bulged out.

That was the carnage I found. I purchased another 8 hp B&S and used that. The replacement motor burns some oil but I don't use the chipper that much. When this engine blows, I'll convert it to Cub Cadet powered
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Jeff, Thanks for boosting my already low confidence of b&s engines.
I've only had one other horizontal shaft b&s, it was awful and seized on me as well, just not in as dramatic fashion as yours. The kill wire runs down the back to the throttle linkage, it's a pull the throttle closed and ground the spark style shutoff.


So if cleaning the magnets doesn't do it, I need a new magneto. I can handle that, assuming they are not ungodly expensive.
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Old 03-30-2014, 09:19 AM
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Jeff, Thanks for boosting my already low confidence of b&s engines.
I've only had one other horizontal shaft b&s, it was awful and seized on me as well, just not in as dramatic fashion as yours. The kill wire runs down the back to the throttle linkage, it's a pull the throttle closed and ground the spark style shutoff.


So if cleaning the magnets doesn't do it, I need a new magneto. I can handle that, assuming they are not ungodly expensive.
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I had rebuilt my K-301 in my 125 a couple weeks before the B&S self destructed and was less than impressed with the cheap way out in manufacturing techniques they employed.
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I had rebuilt my K-301 in my 125 a couple weeks before the B&S self destructed and was less than impressed with the cheap way out in manufacturing techniques they employed.
B&S = broke and scattered
Just my 2 cents but I wouldn't spend much on it. You can probably find a running engine on C-List or just get one of these Chondas
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...4290_200514290
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That has no points like Jonathan said,you can try cleaning the magnets and that is about it.
Looks like it has points to me.
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I dunno...... By that pic yes. By the model number, no matter what the code, they have points. By the CCC parts look-up, the motor on a 400 tiller does not have points. We had one years ago, I don't remember it having points.... but that was a long time ago.

Trace the small wires coming out of your mag, it one runs down behind the flywheel, then it probably has points.

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When I had my 582 motor apart There were a set of points on it but it was not used.
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When I had my 582 motor apart There were a set of points on it but it was not used.
Yeah, that is a possibility too. I had forgotten that Lew! B&S did make a replacement module that did away with the points. I've installed those before. Forgot all about that! Good call!
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B&S = broke and scattered
Just my 2 cents but I wouldn't spend much on it. You can probably find a running engine on C-List or just get one of these Chondas
http://www.northerntool.com/shop/too...4290_200514290
Was thinking that too, but funds aren't plentiful, was hoping to get through this season. If you look up the 400 tiller on partstree, it doesn't list points, but other places do. I'll try to get out there this afternoon and find out for sure.

Partstree lists the coil as BS 398811, can I replace it with an electronic unit and forget the points (if it has them).
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