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Old 04-12-2018, 04:35 PM
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Every company has a model, or series break.... so it depends on the company.

In my mind, tire size and frame style are the main factors. Shaft driven or belt driven transmission. That sort of thing.
What's your feeling towards belt driven hydro? It doesn't sound like a very good thing, but I haven't worked on one enough to know.
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What's your feeling towards belt driven hydro? It doesn't sound like a very good thing, but I haven't worked on one enough to know.
I personally don't care for them. Haven't driven one yet that wasn't "jerky" or hard to control. But I think that has more to do with the quality and controls than anything. Personally I think my 317 Deere's hydro lever is harder to control than any Cub I've ever driven, and it's the exact same hydro and drive setup. Just different control mechanism.

Personally, I like garden tractors. If I just wanted a mower, I'd have a ZTR. If I want to mow with a tractor, I'd rather use a GT. If I was in your position, I'd look for an older Cub GT and put a 38" deck on it. But that is my personal preference. I can't think of any series that a 38" deck wasn't an option.
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Old 04-12-2018, 07:27 PM
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I personally don't care for them. Haven't driven one yet that wasn't "jerky" or hard to control. But I think that has more to do with the quality and controls than anything. Personally I think my 317 Deere's hydro lever is harder to control than any Cub I've ever driven, and it's the exact same hydro and drive setup. Just different control mechanism.

Personally, I like garden tractors. If I just wanted a mower, I'd have a ZTR. If I want to mow with a tractor, I'd rather use a GT. If I was in your position, I'd look for an older Cub GT and put a 38" deck on it. But that is my personal preference. I can't think of any series that a 38" deck wasn't an option.
Sounds like good advice. Thanks! Much appreciated!
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Grew up running a Deere 110 with around a 38" deck and a whopping 8HP Kohler. Pulled a 3 blade mower and did just fine. Lawn mower hp has gone nuts in the last 25 years. If Cadet built a 2072 today it would have at least 25 hp to pull a 60" deck and it would probably be closer to 30. I think most of us hit the yard every week with way more horses than required. Kind of a Tim Allen thought process.
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Both Chad and Jonathan have advocated for the smaller tractors and I totally agree. The 70's series (70, 71, 72, 73) are great economy line tractors and will do a great job for you mowing (and plowing, as I have had snow rolling over the top of my blade before and my 73 was doing just fine). I have heard several fellows tell me that the HP ratings of those old Kohler's was under rated and the more I use mine, the more I believe that to be true. The 70's series are quite plentiful, but so are many of the other models. I think you'd be happy with one of the older IH cubs. Don't worry about the HP, they'll serve you well. Ultimately, it is your choice.

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Honestly Maxwell, I don't think it was that the older motors were underrated.... the new motors are overrated.... I guarantee if you dyno'd them, you would find them to be short their rating.

Other note is, horsepower is a function of speed. Torque is not part of that figure. The old engines were almost square bore engines. Decent size bore, and long stroke. Much more torque. Whenever looking at hp, remember that torque matters. Go to an antique engine show....HUGE motors...low horsepower, HIGH torque.
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Honestly Maxwell, I don't think it was that the older motors were underrated.... the new motors are overrated.... I guarantee if you dyno'd them, you would find them to be short their rating.

Other note is, horsepower is a function of speed. Torque is not part of that figure. The old engines were almost square bore engines. Decent size bore, and long stroke. Much more torque. Whenever looking at hp, remember that torque matters. Go to an antique engine show....HUGE motors...low horsepower, HIGH torque.
Well said Jon! it's all about the torque, weight and gearing.. something that none of the newer more modern machines have all three of..
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There is something to be said about the smaller kohlers the 7 and 8 horse motors are also much smoother and quieter (with correct exhaust in place) my personal favorite is the 86 with 38" deck I actually look foward to using it because its that much a pleasure to operate.
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Mowed a lot of lawn with a cub cadet model 76. 36" Cut, 7 hp Brakes and Scatters. Did what it was designed to do, and much more enjoyable than a push mower...
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This one would be nice to mow with and you know a lot of the history of it!!!

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