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Old 07-01-2014, 08:38 PM
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Well here is the good news......If the replacement bearings fit as they should, and your cam is in good shape, it will be an easy repair. Getting the bearings first and checking things out is the first logical step before worrying about all the doom and gloom. Yea, the bearing spun out for a reason, but it might not be a "deal killer". Good luck TB
J doom and gloom has a nice ring to it. But seriously hes probably right, if the bearing came out it probably brought metal with it and left the hole out of round and even if the bearing goes in tight it will probably be out of round which will make the repair short lived.
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J doom and gloom has a nice ring to it. But seriously hes probably right, if the bearing came out it probably brought metal with it and left the hole out of round and even if the bearing goes in tight it will probably be out of round which will make the repair short lived.
I was going to ask what the failure was that led the OP to finding the bad bearing, but I saw that he posted about low compression and a "mystery metal" lol. I would agree that cam bearings are unlikley to just spin out, probably was a poor oiling condition that caused the initial failure. And if thats the case, then yea, bring on the doom and gloom party!
Good luck, lets hope for the best. TB
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Here's a couple of pictures of the cam. I can't see anything wrong with it. The lobe heights are all in spec.
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It maybe just the picture, but in the first picture it looks like there is some wear on the end of the bearing journal. The only problem I see with line boring, is there a oversize bearing (O.D.) available?
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It maybe just the picture, but in the first picture it looks like there is some wear on the end of the bearing journal. The only problem I see with line boring, is there a oversize bearing (O.D.) available?
The journal in the first picture on the right does look rather odd...... it appears to be stepped or maybe even cracked. Maybe it's the picture or maybe it's what it's suppose to be.. How about some more pictures of that end of the camshaft at different angles? Interesting and thanks.
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I agree with both the above guys. Also, to me, the gear end looks egg shaped, but it is just a pic...... A mic wouldn't lie.
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That odd shape or stepped shape is where the plunger for the points sits. It's sort of egg shaped to open and close the points. I have checked everything several times and it's all in spec according to the manual.
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That odd shape or stepped shape is where the plunger for the points sits. It's sort of egg shaped to open and close the points. I have checked everything several times and it's all in spec according to the manual.
With calipers? Or a micrometer?
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I used a micrometer and I bought a bore gauge for the inside diameters. The micrometer and caliper showed the same on the journals. Both bores were good according to the manual and I checked from 4 different angles.
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I used a micrometer and I bought a bore gauge for the inside diameters. The micrometer and caliper showed the same on the journals. Both bores were good according to the manual and I checked from 4 different angles.
Well, that's good! But something is off here..... why would the bearing just fall out. Something had to cause it.....
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