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Old 11-09-2017, 10:25 PM
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Hi there: totally new here , been lurking and decided to pull the trigger on a 1989 1811 in pretty good condition. The engine was rebuilt and has about 30 hrs on it. I needed something for just snow to clear a 180 ft driveway here in New England and this tractor seemed to fit the bill, it came with weights chains and the 450 blower. My other option was to fit a snow thrower on the front of my Craftsman lawn tractor. - I soon talked myself out of that!. Anyhow, I got the tractor home yesterday and was a little disappointed to find a very small puddle of tranny fluid on the garage floor after running it for a bit and operating the hydraulic lift etc. I wanted to find out where it was coming from so I took off all the covers and after cleaning everything and running again it's clear it's coming from the drive shaft entering the pump. After it's stopped it no longer leaks.

So my questions are ; is this normal and a big deal on a 30 year old tractor and should I fix it.? Or just leave it , let it drip and keep the fluid topped up.?
Is there anything that could cause the leak like over filling the tranny or too much pressure build up etc.?

And last but not least how do I get the drive shaft out of the pump to replace the seal if I decide to tackle it? I don't think I need to remove the transmission and can maybe decouple the shaft and get at it that way?

I have attached some pics of the tractor and also the drive shaft leak point into the pump.

Any assistance or advice would be much appreciated , I'm totally new to tractors of this vintage but I can tell straight away by driving it that this thing blows the socks off my 24 hp Craftsman ..way more torque !! And it's built like a tank. They certainly don't build them like this any more.

Role on snow here in New England

Cheers Tom
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Old 11-09-2017, 11:38 PM
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Welcome, I'm also new here. A friend donated his abandoned 1811 to me since I like to tinker. It was parked in a barn 11 years ago. I wanted a real tractor to push snow and I think this will do it. I'm just looking for some chains and a blade and I'll be ready IF we get any snow this year.

I've had to repair quite a few things on mine to get it running well but this 1811 was built to be repaired unlike my troy bilt. I posted several pictures of the issues I've had with it over the last couple weeks. Just search for "barn find". This weekend I'll install new front wheel bearings and try to to tighten up the sloppy front axle.

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Old 11-10-2017, 07:55 AM
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very nice, welcome to the forum
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Old 11-10-2017, 08:33 AM
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Congrats on the 1811. They are considered one of the best Cub's. As for the trans leak, this far into the season I would just live with the leak and keep the fluid topped off. It never fails that you will no sooner get it torn apart and you will need it.
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Old 11-10-2017, 08:45 AM
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Nice first Cub! Welcome to the forum!
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Old 11-10-2017, 09:12 AM
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Welcome to the forum!

Like stated, the 1811 is one of the best GT's Cub Cadet ever made. Second only to a Super Garden tractor, or maybe an 1864 and that's only because it (1811) doesn't have power steering. (And you will wish it did with that blower on it! )

I have ran that combo for years. Great set up. You are going to wish you had a cab after blowing a lot of snow with it though.
You got a really nice machine. Looks to be in good shape! The blower looks as if it hasn't ever really been used.

As far as the leak goes.... It wouldn't take long to pull the driveshaft and replace the seal. Is it a common issue? Well..... it's a 30 year old machine. I've replaced the seal in mine at least once, maybe twice in the 15 or so years I've had it. There are some other places that are more common to leak, such as the trunion seals, cork gasket and relief valves. I'd probably take an afternoon and fix it. Taking the shaft out is not terribly easy on that tractor. Either the rear or the engine has to be unbolted and slid back a bit to get the shaft out. For what you have to fix, I'd probably loosen the engine plate. No reason to take the rear loose unless you need to.

As a note: I'd be changing at least the filter on the hydro. I can see it in the pic. They haven't used that logo is quite some time. May even be the original filter. Makes me wonder if the oil in the rear has ever been changed. I'd change both oil and filter. A Wix 1410 or Napa 51410 is the filter you need.
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Old 11-10-2017, 10:53 AM
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Thanks a lot for the replies guys. The filter has 30 hours on it based on the hours scribbled on it. But who knows?

As for the drive shaft removal how far do I need to slide the engine forward to get the shaft clear so I can take that other piece off the front of the pump?.what is that piece - some sort of bearing housing? Is there anything else in there worth changing other than the lip seal.

Would I need to remove this piece to get the seal out?


Is there anything else I should be careful of or do here when sliding the shaft out by loosening the engine mounts?

Like another poster said - I will leave this until spring probably because I am bound to screw things up and likely make it worse ..and that gives me plenty of time to fix it.

Is the steering really that bad .I would imagine with the blower lifted a small amount it would make it easier .!

Anyway thanks a lot for the replies

Looking forward to trying her out on some white stuff.

Thanks
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:25 AM
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Yea, nice tractor and set up! Maybe use the 1811 for the winter, read up and investigate what all is involved with the leaks in the hydro pump. Also, if splitting the tractor, you could give the two halves a good, deserved degreasing and cleaning!

Real nice tractor!!!



edit: As for the steering resistance, for me it's no problem. However, a necker knob on the steering wheel will be a cheep and effective way to steer! I plan on adding one to my 1450 !
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Old 11-10-2017, 11:42 AM
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I have removed and installed many driveshafts without moving the engine. There are spacers under the motor, so you will have fun getting them right again.
Very simple procedure but some may not want to do it this way.
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I just unbolt the big plate. 6 bolts. Easier than taking the engine off the plate. Only has to slide a little bit.

Ive done it your way too Lew. More than once!
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