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Old 09-11-2017, 12:36 AM
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good idea. I hadn't thought about it from that angle. I found 2 13 fins for sale today.are they worth 200 for a bare block?
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good idea. I hadn't thought about it from that angle. I found 2 13 fins for sale today.are they worth 200 for a bare block?
You sure that block has the right base to fit a CC? The 13 fin blocks were an early block, and only the CC 169 had them from the factory.... and that's the second most rare Cub. Make sure the block will accept the CC oil pan.

Yeah.... $200 is about what they go for. I usually look for whole motors for sale that don't run. You can usually get a complete motor for $200 or less. But if it is a 13 fin, that's in the ballpark.
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there were no oil pans on them. bare block only but they were 13 fins. faded blue paint on one faded red on the other.i did not look to see if they were drilled for the cub oil pan.
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there were no oil pans on them. bare block only but they were 13 fins. faded blue paint on one faded red on the other.i did not look to see if they were drilled for the cub oil pan.
Not really about being drilled, it's the shape of the lower end of the block.
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I thought there was a different bolt pattern on some blocks but I do believe they were both narrow base blocks. i would rather find a complete engine if i could but everthing cub is hard to come by around these parts.
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Guys cut the ears off those 13 fin wide base blocks and fill the voids with weld or even JB Weld.
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I got two 13 fin bare blocks one narrow base and one wide base. the narrow base cc engines is bored 30 over. am I correct they can be bored larger?what would be the best way to go about building a pulling motor? im guessing a vm or mwsc crank , rod, piston assembly.
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I got two 13 fin bare blocks one narrow base and one wide base. the narrow base cc engines is bored 30 over. am I correct they can be bored larger?what would be the best way to go about building a pulling motor? im guessing a vm or mwsc crank , rod, piston assembly.
Depends. You said "stock" puller in the original thread. While all the big boys like MWSC make excellent products, it's not necessary in a beginner tractor in a stock class to go crazy with the higher dollar parts. Like Don said way back near the beginning of the thread, start small and work your way up. Motor is only about 1/3 of the set up of a pulling tractor. All the power in the world is no good unless you can get the power to the ground. Weight distribution/balance, gearing, driveline/clutch are all areas that will need to be looked at. Overbuilding wastes money, and could add unnecessary weight.

The biggest thing is, it's hard to give any advice unless we know what the rules are......
We can recommend a lot of things, but if the rules don't allow for it, then we wasted our breath.


The wide base block won't work in the CC without a lot of mods (welding and grinding).
Unless someone else makes them, .030" over is the largest overbore you can get. That's really far enough I think. I think there are some .040" over pistons out there, but not sure if there is for the 341. If it's junk at .030" over, you can sleeve it back to stock.
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ok I see that vm makes a 3.812 piston. would that be better than trying to sleeve it? iim not sure if that piston could be used on stock rod and crank.
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ok I see that vm makes a 3.812 piston. would that be better than trying to sleeve it? iim not sure if that piston could be used on stock rod and crank.
The only piston I see that VM has that is that large has a ceramic topcoat, and is a low profile piston. It costs almost as much as a standard rebuild. The largest stock piston he has is .030" over. I don't know what rod combo that is made for, or even if it will go in a stock block. I don't know if you can even bore a stock block that large. Maybe Don will chime in later and say, but I'm thinking that is for a stock altered block.

You sure seem scattered about how to build, or even rebuild a motor...... you ever done this kind of thing before? Do you have anyone helping you? Is this the only place your asking questions?
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