Rod End Size? Right or Left?

[Group_44]

I have a bunch of worn rod ends on a 2084 I am working on and while it's apart I want to replace them and tighten up the steering. I intend to replace the ends on the P/S cylinder and both ends of both tie rods. From what I see for the parts blow up, all the ends are 1/2"x20 female thread but there is no mention if they are right or left. Will probably order them from McMaster-Carr unless my friend at the race shop can get me a better deal. Going to get the heavy duty greaseable ones since they are cheap enough. I may get them for the 2086 while I am at it.

[cubs-n-bxrs]

They should all be right hand thread. All the tie rod ends on my 1572 are right threads.

[Group_44]

I just looked at the tie rod ends and the inner doesn't look like its 1/2" its much smaller. The outer looks like it may be 1/2". I'm sure somebody has been down this road, any insight on the correct ones I need to order?

[J-Mech]

Well, you could always look it up......

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=c...&dn=0035800040

My bad, it doesn't say. But it does give a size for the jam nut for the tie rod. It's listed under the #7 listing for the tie rod itself. Process of elimination.

[Group_44]

Originally Posted by J-Mech

Well, you could always look it up......

http://www.partstree.com/parts/?lc=c...&dn=0035800040

My bad, it doesn't say. But it does give a size for the jam nut for the tie rod. It's listed under the #7 listing for the tie rod itself. Process of elimination.

I did try to look it up first before I asked , I saw the size for the 1/2" jam nut, but missed the one for the 3/8" one. Unless there is something else I need to know about the rod ends I'm good for now.

[DoubleO7]

If your thinking of using the Heim style, they can be had with oil impregnated bronze bearing surface.
Or a PTFE liner instead.
The HEIM joint wipes the bearing surfaces clean when it moves.

If you use a non-stud type HEIM joint directly bolted with a bolt in the eye, then the movement will be restricted.
Use the stud style HEIM joint.

As inexpensive as they are, I would not use the greaseable type. Your just inviting dirt and grit to hang on the part that does not work well with such.

[Group_44]

Originally Posted by DoubleO7

If your thinking of using the Heim style, they can be had with oil impregnated bronze bearing surface.
Or a PTFE liner instead.
The HEIM joint wipes the bearing surfaces clean when it moves.

If you use a non-stud type HEIM joint directly bolted with a bolt in the eye, then the movement will be restricted.
Use the stud style HEIM joint.

As inexpensive as they are, I would not use the greaseable type. Your just inviting dirt and grit to hang on the part that does not work well with such.

There are 6 joints on the super, the ones on the power steering cylinder and the inner tie rod ends are what you call "heim style" already, they work fine without binding. The outer tie rods ends are the ball joint style and will be replaced with a heavy duty joint of the same style with an attached stud. As far as the grease attracting dirt, regular greasing flushes the grit out of the joint, installing them with the matching rubber seals helps too. I'm familiar with the care and feeding of these joints, my race car has 36 of them on the suspension alone.

[Sam Mac]

Originally Posted by Group_44

There are 6 joints on the super, the ones on the power steering cylinder and the inner tie rod ends are what you call "heim style" already, they work fine without binding. The outer tie rods ends are the ball joint style and will be replaced with a heavy duty joint of the same style with an attached stud. As far as the grease attracting dirt, regular greasing flushes the grit out of the joint, installing them with the matching rubber seals helps too. I'm familiar with the care and feeding of these joints, my race car has 36 of them on the suspension alone.

Race Cars have Heim Joints? No kidding? Just busting. Go get out the Q1 catalog. I know you have one.

[Group_44]

Originally Posted by Sam Mac

Race Cars have Heim Joints? No kidding? Just busting. Go get out the Q1 catalog. I know you have one.

I was surprised to see that the QA1 prices were actually a little lower then McMaster-Carr for the same type joints, I had already put in the order and McMaster does deliver quick. I live close to their Jersey warehouse and they actually have a local delivery van, if you order before 10:00 am they get it to you that afternoon. I used mostly Aurora brand joints on the race car , that was what the chassis builder recommended, but they weren't cheap.

[Group_44]

The truck from McMaster just showed up, to my surprise the rod ends were QA1 brand. Who knew?