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john hall 09-10-2017 09:51 PM

Older vehicle tax value
 
Just curious as to how other areas place property tax values on vehicles. Specifically old cars and trucks. Not gripes about your house valuation, or on your boat and RV---just older cars.

In a nutshell, the issue I am running into at the moment is the tax value on a 38 year old 1 ton farm truck. It has a wood stake body--and I mean wood as in wood floor, runners, sides, you get the idea. It has an automatic trans, broken AC, no dents, some rust. The county thinks its worth over $13,000. The county thinks ANY old vehicle is a collectors item. Around here, that truck would sell for $1,500-3,000. Where they get the crazy values I don't know. A few years back the tax value on my 66 Mustang shot up to $16,000. I raised heck with the tax office to the point they realized I wasn't just going to "go away". Since the car was not a daily driver, they finally told me that if I paid an extra $10 a year to get antique auto tags, the most they could tax the car at would be $500. So I did and now the county gets WAY less in tax revenue for the car than they did before--the savings even offset the extra cost of the antique auto tags. I'm going to check, but I don't think I can get a "weighted" antique auto tag. So looks like I'll probably be arguing with the tax office.

Anyone else live in a county that just assumes because a vehicle is old that it is restored and worth a small fortune?

darkminion_17 09-10-2017 09:55 PM

So is this vehicle only used on the farm, not sure how they know you have the truck.

rbarri2 09-10-2017 09:57 PM

I ran into this when I bought an old IH Scout from TX and brought it to LA.
LA thought it was worth 2-3K and wanted taxes on that amount.
I laughed at them and asked what I could do. They said to have the Scout appraised and they would accept that value.
I emailed Super Scout Specialists in Ohio with a picture of it, sent them their small fee, and I was emailed and mailed an appraisal that put the Scout right around $400. I paid taxes on the $400 and all was right.

john hall 09-10-2017 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by darkminion_17 (Post 432601)
So is this vehicle only used on the farm, not sure how they know you have the truck.

Farm vehicles do not get special treatment here, other than a break on tags. I think that is because they are "seasonal" as opposed to say a dump truck that runs 5 days a week all year long.

They should know it is a farm vehicle be cause our property taxes and tags all come in the same bill. And if you haven't gotten it inspected, they hold the tags--even if you already paid for them.

I may call the county to the north of me and get a tax value for it there--that county has about 1/10th the population we do.

john hall 09-10-2017 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rbarri2 (Post 432604)
I ran into this when I bought an old IH Scout from TX and brought it to LA.
LA thought it was worth 2-3K and wanted taxes on that amount.
I laughed at them and asked what I could do. They said to have the Scout appraised and they would accept that value.
I emailed Super Scout Specialists in Ohio with a picture of it, sent them their small fee, and I was emailed and mailed an appraisal that put the Scout right around $400. I paid taxes on the $400 and all was right.

For the Mustang I was told to bring it downtown so they could inspect it on the street--literally. Told me if it was high mileage they could knock off some $$$. When I told them the odometer restes to zero at 100,000, they then wanted to know didn't I have all my receipts for maintenance---for a 50 year old car that is older than I am.:bash2:

rbarri2 09-10-2017 10:09 PM

Wow!
What a pain in the ......

CubDieselFan 09-10-2017 10:12 PM

So is this a tax you have to pay each year?

J-Mech 09-10-2017 10:12 PM

In Illinois, the only time we pay tax on a vehicle is when it's purchased. You pay it one time. Anything over 10 years old (IIRC) it's a flat tax and it's like $25 (or so). We only pay registration once a year. Value of the registration depends on the type. Car plates are one price, "specialty" plates are higher. Truck plates go up in GVWR and the rate follows. We only pay property tax on property.
(land/houses/buildings).

CubDieselFan 09-10-2017 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 432613)
In Illinois, the only time we pay tax on a vehicle is when it's purchased. You pay it one time. Anything over 10 years old (IIRC) it's a flat tax and it's like $25 (or so). We only pay registration once a year. Value of the registration depends on the type. Car plates are one price, "specialty" plates are higher. Truck plates go up in GVWR and the rate follows. We only pay property tax on property.
(land/houses/buildings).

That is pretty close to Tennessee. In my county it is 25 plus a 75 buck wheel tax. The 10 year old does not apply. You pay the tax on the value unless it is purchased from a family member.

john hall 09-10-2017 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Mech (Post 432613)
In Illinois, the only time we pay tax on a vehicle is when it's purchased. You pay it one time. Anything over 10 years old (IIRC) it's a flat tax and it's like $25 (or so). We only pay registration once a year. Value of the registration depends on the type. Car plates are one price, "specialty" plates are higher. Truck plates go up in GVWR and the rate follows. We only pay property tax on property.
(land/houses/buildings).

Well, if you guys ever have budget issues, we can tell you how to FIX them!:bigeyes:

Yes, truck plates cost more as the weight goes up, that's fair I suppose. But this is property tax, it was once a "use" value. Now its whatever they think it will sell for.:bash2:


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